Embarassing crop of spring barley? FW p 46

anyone growing spring barley this year has already fallen at the first hurdle IMO

AHDB data shows planting expected to be up 20 ish % - barley is going to be worthless next harvest, you will need 4t to make a margin !

Sort of agree , big acreage going in around me , we are not what you would call spring barley ground ,,,,,,,,,brought my acreage right back , just planting enough to cover our own use for milling
 

Chae1

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Can't really imagine what a 4t/acre crop of SB in the field would look like.
Last 3 years of SB have averaged 3t, 2.8t and 2.9t acre. That's malting given 100-110 units N so I suppose upping the N a lot and some growth regulator would make it possible.
Best yield ever for me is still Prisma at 3.2t/acre back in 1995 though.

Alway work contracts out on 2.5t acre and hope for 3t.
Glad it's not just me then! I've tried upping N to 120 units but saw no yield difference so went back to 110. I can almost average 3t/acre for feed barley, that's putting 10t/acre fym. Counting that as ten units and 100 from bag.
 

shakerator

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LINCS
anyone growing spring barley this year has already fallen at the first hurdle IMO

AHDB data shows planting expected to be up 20 ish % - barley is going to be worthless next harvest, you will need 4t to make a margin !

There are more markets for high N grain, in fact shitty lager needs it!!
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
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Lincolnshire
2 ton per acre would be a good crop of Spring barley here where winter did 4 ton two years ago. Just can't seem to get the seedbed here in the spring, then the rooks have a bit, then it dries out before it matures, usually. We often undersow as well which will knock another half ton off but at least we have a grass ley as a bonus and some nice grassy straw if we can bale it dry.

And everybody and his dog is growing it round here bacause of blackgrass.
 

bankrupt

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EX17/20
Some people have already locked into a profit....... @Brisel for one.

Fair point, Flat 10.

However, nobody can really claim to have locked in an actual profit until knowing what their yield turns out to be.

For example, I sold barley forward at £60/t in April 1976 in order to lock in a profit on both Winter and Spring Barley.

A profit would then have been made at anything over 3t/Ha.

In the event, due to the extremely dry summer, Spring Barley averaged 2.7t/Ha and Winter Barley about double that.

:banghead::banghead:
 

Flat 10

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Arable Farmer
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Fen Edge
Fair point, Flat 10.

However, nobody can really claim to have locked in an actual profit until knowing what their yield turns out to be.

For example, I sold barley forward at £60/t in April 1976 in order to lock in a profit on both Winter and Spring Barley.

A profit would then have been made at anything over 3t/Ha.

In the event, due to the extremely dry summer, Spring Barley averaged 2.7t/Ha and Winter Barley about double that.

:banghead::banghead:
True. I would only commit 50% of my anticipated yields forward.
 

robbie

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BASIS
I always find that for spring barley you can lock in to whatever price you like but come harvest if the maltsters/merchants have bought wrong and paid over the odds for it ,it'll have something wrong with it once it's on there weighbridge. you haven't made a profit till your shed is empty and the cheque is in the bank.
 

Flat 10

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Arable Farmer
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Fen Edge
I always find that for spring barley you can lock in to whatever price you like but come harvest if the maltsters/merchants have bought wrong and paid over the odds for it ,it'll have something wrong with it once it's on there weighbridge. you haven't made a profit till your shed is empty and the cheque is in the bank.
Hmmmm you do have a point.
 

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