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- Huntingdon, UK
Might be building a new cattle handling system, thinking of using round posts with large collars on the gates, so they swing 360 degrees. Has anyone done this? Any tips or things to avoid / off the shelf bits I can buy?
Gates that swing 360?
- Thread starter Andrew
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capfits
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We have a Ritchie handling system http://www.ritchie-d.co.uk/content/cattle-handling-system-permanent at the centre of our handling. Their swinging gate is mounted on a substantial round pillar with a really good thick collar and a racheting spring loaded pin for forcing. Personnaly I think 2 parallel pins at different heights would be a little safer and give a pit more rigidity to the gate.
We also adapted another gate on the other bit, our attempts ain't as good as Ritchie's use thick steel for the collar.
Also give some thought to how to really secure gate/s if outside for those windy conditions.
If you also mean to handle sheep give a bit of thought to ability to change width and sheeting lower parts.
We also adapted another gate on the other bit, our attempts ain't as good as Ritchie's use thick steel for the collar.
Also give some thought to how to really secure gate/s if outside for those windy conditions.
If you also mean to handle sheep give a bit of thought to ability to change width and sheeting lower parts.
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Fraserb
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- Scottish Borders
We had 360 gates in our last parlour setup, used a round post then made collars from bigger pipe and welded m20 studding onto the collars, used the same pipe welded to the posts to set the height, once we got all the gates set up welded some flat bar from the collars onto the ends of the gate to strengthen them, before we done this sometimes they would nip when moving them and bend the studding
Goweresque
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- North Wilts
I built a gate that could swing 360 (it doesn't in the position its in but could). I had a round tube concreted into the ground and welded a solid cap on it. Then got another piece of tube that fitted fairly loosely over the post, and welded another solid cap on that. I then welded some vertical strips of metal on the fixed post to prevent sideways slop, and reduce the friction. Finally I got a decent quality swivel castor, cut the wheel off and welded a flat plate across where the wheel used to be. The castor was then welded to the top of the fixed post, the tube slid over that and rested on the castor at the top. Gate was then fixed to the outside tube. A bit of grease on the vertical strips on the inner post helps reduce friction, as does drilling a hole so you can squirt some oil into the castor bearing from time to time.
This was put in place 10 years ago, has worked fine ever since.
This was put in place 10 years ago, has worked fine ever since.
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- South wales
We've just done a new race system in work chap who made the 360 gates used 2 long gas bottles welded together for the post then made two Collers with a piece welded on to bolt the gate too we used two gates so you can keep cattle flowing rather than have to swing the gate back the other way, you can see it leaning against the wall
and in place I will get a better picture on Monday if you like?
Thanks for the tag @eulb
Here are the ones I made. Same as above really, except I packed the distance from the "hinge" to the gate with washers. This is so that the threaded rod is not put into bending and also so that the gates can be adjusted.
The gate side of the hinges were set so that the three gates will sit parallel to each other.
JD-Kid
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- Akaroa.. New Zealand
is the center pole full of concreate ??
was thinking of something like that in sheep yards for a center pen so the gates lead to diffrent outlets etc but run out of space made the shed a tad small on one side
No, its just a steel tube. Ill be at the farm later today and i will measure if i remember (doubtfull today)
Id say its about 150mm diameter tube with about 10mm wall thickness - just what we found in the scrapyard.
My opinion as well is that filling the centre with conrete will not provide any benefit, as its a brittle material in tension.
To give you an idea of scale, the largest gate is about 14' long from memory, as the gap is about 24' and it matches with a gate a little smaller.
gates are made from 50mm box, with 40mm and 25mm internals.
JD-Kid
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- Akaroa.. New Zealand
it will be set quite deep in the ground i guess
used alot of lift and swing gates in wool sheds but need some were for the counter balance weight inside the tube to go and are only single gates were 3 gates could keep turning around to force sheep in to races etc just would need a slam latch system to make it work eazy ..
i like the way yer off set the hinges too
what are the rings sitting on ? just a coller welded under the bottom one .are there greese nipples on them as well ?
used alot of lift and swing gates in wool sheds but need some were for the counter balance weight inside the tube to go and are only single gates were 3 gates could keep turning around to force sheep in to races etc just would need a slam latch system to make it work eazy ..
i like the way yer off set the hinges too
what are the rings sitting on ? just a coller welded under the bottom one .are there greese nipples on them as well ?
found these online
http://www.teparidirect.co.nz/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=149
We have similar that have been in our handling shed for 30 odd years. Two collars welded to gate for hinge. One collar at bottom fixed to post to stop it sliding to far down (this is adjustable on some of them)
http://www.teparidirect.co.nz/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=149
We have similar that have been in our handling shed for 30 odd years. Two collars welded to gate for hinge. One collar at bottom fixed to post to stop it sliding to far down (this is adjustable on some of them)
its probably set about 3 foot in the gorund. concrete all the way. welded some scraps to the pole beneath ground for the concrete to tie to.
Yes. the ring is the same as the hinges, and welded to the post.
No grease nipples - Dad wanted to but at the end of the day, him nor my brother know what a grease gun is for so i didnt see the point
thanks
- Location
- South wales
Fraserb
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- Location
- Scottish Borders
Ours are the same as yours I would say, a little squirt of oil every now and then helped them swing easy
Danllan
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- Location
- Sir Gar / Carms
Danllan
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- Sir Gar / Carms
True, but intuitively a round post 'seems' better. I'm not bothered as long as it works but, after playing around a bit, at the moment I'm favouring a set round post with a stout vertical pin on the top in the centre, and a sleeve of tube to go over this and be held in place by the pin, with either a ring bearing or a lot of grease to help with movement. If I can get a decent, fairly close fit, between the inner and the outer I think this will be the strongest set up.
Chae1
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- Aberdeenshire
Iae supply them. Ours came from them
Danllan
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- Location
- Sir Gar / Carms
Is that a special order item or part of a race system? I ask because I have a copy of the current (March 2017) IAE catalogue here and I can't see them in there.
Inky
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- Essex / G.London
Bateman do them as well.