Hydrein
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Tonym
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14 inch boards ploughing at 12inches wide.
All things being equal, the first 12" commercial Hydreins ploughed at closer to 13" than 12"
Tonym
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All things being equal, the first 12" commercial Hydreins ploughed at closer to 13" than 12"
But the 14"boards are totally different to the 12" being both longer and deeper. For a time I used a 14" and spaced the rear leg to 12" and thought it made a better job.
KV achieve this by using a different rear furrow frame so the two ploughs are only designed to plough their set width and not changed like a Ransomes.
I have often read on here that hydreins are no match for tcns. But I seem to remember that a friend ran a three furrow Bamford Kverneland back in the seventies and it laid some lovely work.I would have thought in the right hands they would give most classic boards a run for their money. Opinions please.
Having used quite comprehensively, the first Hydreins to come over, they were indeed a welcome change to such as YL's, even TCN's on some of the harsher rock laden limestone soils hereabouts. Previously unknown to go for weeks on end without having to change shares on a daily basis. We used to grow some one or two year leys, and given the right moisture content, the Hydrein would make a superb job.
However these are not to be confused with Hydrein specials or Super Hydreins specifically made for match ploughing. As with all things, in the right hands there is always the potential for seeing a better job done.
When it comes to vintage or classic work then the commercial Hydreins or Hydrex currently allowed simply cannot hold a candle to ploughs produced by Ransomes, not just in one aspect but right across the board
Thanks for your opinion Dave. Just so thankful you wrote it in English and not Yorkshire otherwise it would take me all day to decipher it.
I have enjoyed your poems by the way, and in particular the post you put on about Albert and the Lion. It takes me back to a gentler age, which unfortunately has gone forever.
Thanks for the kind words.
There are dozens of those monologues on a wide range of subjects, all brought to life in the most amazing way by Stanley Holloway penned by several people. They have much more meaning for t'owder yans among us who listened to them with much more attention with none of the multitudnous distractions here today.
Another famous one being the Battle of Hastings - Harold on is oss wi is awk in is and and an eyeful of arrow.. or summat like that
As far as poem's in di'lect goes... probably have more meaning to a Tyke who knows how it "shud be spoke" but from a writing point of view is much easier to rhyme than t'Queens English. Bit like Bob saying about filing 't'corners off them new thruppny bits - its already bin done fer yer ower siveral ginerashuns!
Thy allus needs ter mind though, funniest ot' skits allus has a grain o' truth embedded init!
massey765
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Hey up judge. ...bard......n' poet.....thas put this int wrong thread...You'll have sodemall on thee case fer not puttin it int banter department 
Ray996
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Did some of my finest p!coughing on grass with my hydrein last year,customer came in to inspect my work and said that's some of the best ploughing he had ever seen on his land,not bad for a 40 year old plough,puts kV no8 s to shame on grass.
Is your hydrein 12 or 14 inch, forward or rear depth wheel ?.
Ray996
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4 furrow 12 inch ,skimmers removed ,discs only and rear depth wheel.boards getting bit thin but works fine
So is this the usual plough man mod, are 12 inch board's lacking in capabilities, I'm mostly ploughing on medium to heavy land ?.
The book of words I've just got on the Bamford Hydrein say wheel track is 3x the furrow width of the plough + 2-3 inches, my MF 148 is set at 56 inch track but inside tyre to tyre measurement is 4 inches more than the book recommend's, is anyone else ploughing with this track setting as I don't really want to move it in because of the potato planter, mower etc.
Should be fine. Just get the cross shaft in the right place. TS86's run fine on 56 but some of us run 52 on furrow side with 60 on land. Just helps to slip one off where nescessary.
Run any wider and the wheels are too far out of sequence with the furrows to paddle all the trash down.
Nearly forgot - just make sure your top link is running fairly central - keeps the plough running true front to back! Can be adjusted on Kverneland.
Good luck
Ray996
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What would be best track setting for my 1490 and 12 inch hydrein ,plough used to work fine on 996 which sold recently.1490 on 60 inch centres on 16.9 x34 ,I have set 13.6x 38 also which are set at 52 inch on my older 996 ,any advice most welcome
Graeme Witty once told me to keep them as narrow as possible. Thats fine as far as it goes but it all needs to work around your finish and how you execute your finish. Obviously you have no PAVT wheels.
As I said bfore it may be beneficial to offset the wheels and always bear in mind you can always turn a tyre round on the rim to give yourself an intermediate setting. Fronts normally work in twos but you can even get thatdown to 1 on a Brown.
You might be better talking to a wordstyler here. Ater all most of us vintage guys take the third to last green furrow as a single along with any oddments, and the second to last green furrow as a single.
We are also allowed as many empty runs as we choose. In Scotland its only one - similar in World style.