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I'm stumped then.All mine were sprayed with glypho about 3-5 days post drilling
I'm stumped then.All mine were sprayed with glypho about 3-5 days post drilling
I don't really know why the establishment is worse. There weren't any rooks or slugs and the slots were closed just as well. It's as if the oats did produce an alleopathic exudate that even effected the non cereals as well as cereals or just purely that the cover took the moisture at seeding depth.Did you get many rooks on these? What do you think caused the lower establishment here? Our one field of zero tilled winter beans is a lot patchier than the fields we went over once with the Terrastar. Some bits are OK, but there are quite big patches that aren't. Seed didn't really go in deep enough and straw was stuffed in the slot which did close -- this made it easier for the rooks / slugs to get at them. Even had to pellet this field.
I don't really know why the establishment is worse. There weren't any rooks or slugs and the slots were closed just as well. It's as if the oats did produce an alleopathic exudate that even effected the non cereals as well as cereals or just purely that the cover took the moisture at seeding depth.
The only other thing is wether the high rate of glypho was somehow translocated down to the cc roots and picked up by the new seedlings??
A very interesting thread, we've had similar issues issues.I don't really know why the establishment is worse. There weren't any rooks or slugs and the slots were closed just as well. It's as if the oats did produce an alleopathic exudate that even effected the non cereals as well as cereals or just purely that the cover took the moisture at seeding depth.
The only other thing is wether the high rate of glypho was somehow translocated down to the cc roots and picked up by the new seedlings??
Talking to our agronomist we did wonder wether it mate have taken up some glyph exuded from the CC roots.
I think it was @mikep had a theory on this.
I don't really know why the establishment is worse. There weren't any rooks or slugs and the slots were closed just as well. It's as if the oats did produce an alleopathic exudate that even effected the non cereals as well as cereals or just purely that the cover took the moisture at seeding depth.
The only other thing is wether the high rate of glypho was somehow translocated down to the cc roots and picked up by the new seedlings??
Very interesting article on this very subject by Matt Hagny in issue 8-3 of Leading Edge, which Silliam W kindly posted up a while ago. Can't work out how to make it easier for you to access.
http://www.notill.org/resources/leading-edge-magazine -
Definitely far worse establishment on everything drilled on the green from cereals to beans, peas and linseed!
No. I've only got a micro granule applicator on the drill but just spun Fert on top after drilling.Hi T. Boy, did you put any fertilizer with the cereals and linseed?
No. I've only got a micro granule applicator on the drill but just spun Fert on top after drilling.