Election 2017 poll

your vote

  • Tory

    Votes: 45 72.6%
  • Lib dem

    Votes: 7 11.3%
  • Ukip

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Green

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Labour

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Scottish national

    Votes: 4 6.5%
  • Dup

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Tusc

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Plaid

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Respect

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .

jendan

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
I am a Conservative by habit, but that's because I am a Unionist by instinct. If I were in NI I would be a UUP supporter, bus as for politics here on the mainland...

I think that the Liberal Democrats are neither liberal nor democratic, the only policy I agree with that they hold - and could be trusted to deliver - is PR, but I want it because I am a democrat, they want it because it will make them 'kingmakers'. A tyranny by a majority is an awful thing in a supposed democracy; a tyranny by a minority - the Lib' Dem's - would be even worse. This is the only thing that gives me pause for thought as to whether a change to PR would actually mean an end to relative political stability.

Labour would probably try and turn us in to a republic eventually, something I do agree with. But that's it for them, they simply can't be trusted with anything that involves security, the economy or stability. Just thinking about the four most powerful people in the UK being Jeremy Corbyn, John McDonnell, Diane Abbott and Emily Thornberry turns my stomach with loathing and concern.

UKIP were a party I supported, joined, campaigned and stood for - all with no regrets. But is was always just a pressure group to get the Conservative party back to its proper place. That written, it was the most successful campaign group in political history and despite some of the idiots on its fringe, I think that in the long term the country will look back on it with gratitude. But it's dead now, job done.

Here in Wales we have Plaid Cymru as a choice... as a party they are about as left-wing as Jeremy Corbyn. They don't have the numbers to produce a realistic pool of talent for any form of government above county level and are so dogmatic it is painful. I would vote for my current Plaid candidate at county level, but that is because I know her personally through community and PTA work and she is a good and decent woman - and not a revolutionary socialist - and, anyway, there were no other candidates in the recent county elections.

And so back to the Conservatives, far from perfect, not entirely trustworthy and with some utter irrelevances in senior roles. However, Theresa May is by far the least worse option of the possible Prime Ministers after June 8th. I think she would try for a softer Brexit than I would like, but I also think that she would walk away if the EU were simply insulting, which is a hell of an improvement upon David Cameron.

I hope that there will be a Conservative majority of around fifty, to allow internal party pressure to influence the PM and because I think it healthier for our democracy. It should be noted that of 'new' Conservative PPCs, a large majority are pro-Brexit, therefore a Conservative landslide might not necessarily mean a watered down Brexit ; I guess that there will be a majority of a hundred or so.
Well,you seem to have got that off your chest. I dont really know what Teresa May stands for anymore,other than a weak and wobbly, u turn, cock up woman.
 

bluegreen

Member
This post reminds me of all the brexituuurs saying how Austria, Holand and France were all going to vote to leave the eu and thus, the eu was going to tumble like a pack of cards. I am tickled too:D

Globalism has failed, the elitist mafias dream of an "Erdogan style" one world dictatorship is dead in the water, and dear old Donald is in the process of throwing the drowning EU a great big Anvil to help them on their way to the sea floor!!
If anyone thinks the election of a Rothschild banker is going to bring forth a new dawn for mankind, think again!
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
Well,you seem to have got that off your chest. I dont really know what Teresa May stands for anymore,other than a weak and wobbly, u turn, cock up woman.
Nothing off chest, just pre-empting comebacks due to past experience. The problem Theresa May has, and I suppose any other politician for that matter, is that her opposition will say that to ignore public opinion against a policy is 'arrogant', and yet to change a policy due to public opinion shows 'weakness'.

I think that it demonstrates a degree of strength, attentiveness and confidence, to be able to admit that a proposed policy is wrong and to alter or scrap it. The reality is that in General Elections there are very few of us who vote on the basis of one policy or for an individual candidate, rather, it is the holistic nature of a party and the leader that attracts or repels voters.

You may think she is awful, fair enough, I am not a great fan myself, but can you identify and support any truly credible alternative?
 

rob1

Member
Location
wiltshire
Nothing off chest, just pre-empting comebacks due to past experience. The problem Theresa May has, and I suppose any other politician for that matter, is that her opposition will say that to ignore public opinion against a policy is 'arrogant', and yet to change a policy due to public opinion shows 'weakness'.

I think that it demonstrates a degree of strength, attentiveness and confidence, to be able to admit that a proposed policy is wrong and to alter or scrap it. The reality is that in General Elections there are very few of us who vote on the basis of one policy or for an individual candidate, rather, it is the holistic nature of a party and the leader that attracts or repels voters.

You may think she is awful, fair enough, I am not a great fan myself, but can you identify and support any truly credible alternative?

I think nicola sturgeon would make a great prime minister



After a few years of her absolutely anyone would seem wonderful, no one would ever complain again after she got booted out :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

jendan

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Nothing off chest, just pre-empting comebacks due to past experience. The problem Theresa May has, and I suppose any other politician for that matter, is that her opposition will say that to ignore public opinion against a policy is 'arrogant', and yet to change a policy due to public opinion shows 'weakness'.

I think that it demonstrates a degree of strength, attentiveness and confidence, to be able to admit that a proposed policy is wrong and to alter or scrap it. The reality is that in General Elections there are very few of us who vote on the basis of one policy or for an individual candidate, rather, it is the holistic nature of a party and the leader that attracts or repels voters.

You may think she is awful, fair enough, I am not a great fan myself, but can you identify and support any truly credible alternative?
I do not think she is awful,but has been found wanting in some interviews as i thought she would be.Compared to the likes of idiot Diane Abbot,there is obviously no contest. But they are putting forward one policy after another that they are having to scrap,and you wonder if its all down to Timothy and Hill or not.I also wonder where the likes of Evette Cooper , Harriet Harman,Starmer,and the ex army bloke(i forget his name)etc, have disappeared to,the Labour ones with at least a few brain cells between them that could make some sort of contest to it.
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
I do not think she is awful,but has been found wanting in some interviews as i thought she would be.Compared to the likes of idiot Diane Abbot,there is obviously no contest. But they are putting forward one policy after another that they are having to scrap,and you wonder if its all down to Timothy and Hill or not.I also wonder where the likes of Evette Cooper , Harriet Harman,Starmer,and the ex army bloke(i forget his name)etc, have disappeared to,the Labour ones with at least a few brain cells between them that could make some sort of contest to it.
There is no doubt at all that TM relies on her 'special advisors' to a great degree, but as you have written that still does not make her bad in comparison to any on the Labour front bench.

I have come across Keir Starmer a few times in my past profession, he has a superb legal mind and exuded confidence in the Courts, however in politics he always looks like a nervous man with the sh*ts who thinks the dreadful moment is about to come. Harman is / was a single issue dogmatist and I wasn't impressed by Ms Cooper or her husband. The ex-soldier is Dan Jarvis, a probable future Labour leader.

Regardless of my opinion of them, all of these and other senior Labour figures are steering well clear of JC in this campaign so that he, and his immediate circle, will have to 'own' the probably major defeat. This is because they have failed and, constitutionally, will keep failing to remove JC from his post as the Labour party currently stands. If / when he suffers a major defeat, there is a fair chance he can be removed - and all of there 'players' want to be able to hold up their hands and say 'I wasn't part of the losing team.'
 

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    Votes: 39 15.3%
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    Votes: 5 2.0%
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    Votes: 3 1.2%
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    Votes: 12 4.7%

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