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£3.5 billion for the HMS Queen Elizabeh. Apparently we've agreed to let the USA use the thing until we can afford to buy some of our own fighters. Another top vote winner!
Aircraft Carrier with no planes!!
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- Beragh, Co Tyrone, Northern Ireland
Roger Perry
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F-35 is one impressive piece of equipment, I am far from an expert on these things but your new carrier equipped with with these planes should give you pride in your navy.
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- Limousin
Really, looks more like a flying Turkey searching for a desperate country with a big aircraft carrier and no planes.
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/the-f-35-14-trillion-dollar-national-disaster-19985
Roger Perry
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Few weeks ago on veterans day they did a flyover with a bunch of these planes...........so I will disagree with your opinion.
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- Limousin
Not me, only reading what your countrymen say including the head of US military kit testing.
Traffic dodger
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On the news the captain was saying how many people it could rescue and look after on humanity missions. Does that mean it's main job will be picking up boat migrants in the med and bringing them to the uk ?
Hindsight
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- Lincolnshire
Pride! What are we going to do with it? Apart from keeping Lockheed Martin and Pratt & Witney in work. Suppose it will wander around the ports of the world as a willy waving exercise. Its not a lot of use against a disaffected lad in Bradford catching train through Grantham to commit martyrdom in London.
Wellytrack
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I think they should have been Nuclear powered like the Nimitz Class, all those support vessels just for fuel and maintenance.
Think about the Subs, the Astute Class are fuelled for their entire 25 year service life.
Think about the Subs, the Astute Class are fuelled for their entire 25 year service life.
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- Limousin
It was commissioned by a Labour government so no Nukes. The navy were probably lucky they didn't specify it had to be coal fired to reemploy redundant miners.
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- Beragh, Co Tyrone, Northern Ireland
Hindsight
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- Lincolnshire
Front page of The Times today a piece of investigative journalism. Looks like the USA is selling us a right pup!!
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=T...+17+2017+seamus+jennings&imgrc=0eU186vi6Sin3M:
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Roger Perry
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Well, I am no expert but if these planes are not to your liking then please do not buy them..........best.build your own or buy some from somewhere else.............or don't buy any at all might be best, that way it avoids any issues over there use.
Billhook
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" We are confident that carriers still have a place in the world today" "the F-35 has had its problems but we are confident that it is a great plane"
Proof by assertion is not proof. I am afraid that all these aircraft, aircraft carriers and submarines are going to be consigned to the dustbin of history with the massive development of drone warfare.
How can you defend against a drone submarine that digs itself in to the seabed and waits perhaps for years for the command. You do not need a crew to support or fuel.
How do you defend against drone aircraft which can turn at rates unthinkable with a human being in the cockpit. They are lighter and cheaper as so much in a plane is equipment for pilot survival. And as they are cheaper and have no human in them they are more expendable and can go on Kamikaze missions
I would think that a pilot could put on a special helmet in an airbase in the UK and have a virtual reality view of the situation as good if not better than actually being in the plane plus he will have several people guiding his decisions sitting next to him, all making calmer decisions out of the heat of battle.
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I am no expert either, but the point is we in the U.K. no longer can afford to do this independently of the USA. It is just a vanity project for our abject leaders. According to the commander of one of these carriers he expects to be operating in such places as the South China Sea. WTF? The U.K. Is becoming a poodle tied to America.
JohnGalway
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- Connemara, Ireland
Anti satellite warfare and communications disruption, cut off the head.
Billhook
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But that would knacker everything especially an aircraft carrier.
JohnGalway
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- Connemara, Ireland