Farm Assured cereals, do they make more money?
- Thread starter Rob Thompson
- Start date
My good deed for the day, here's a couple of links for you that should be helpful;
http://assurance.redtractor.org.uk/contentfiles/Farmers-5386.pdf?_=635912156227797555
https://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201012/cmselect/cmenvfru/1266/1266we06.htm
http://assurance.redtractor.org.uk/contentfiles/Farmers-5386.pdf?_=635912156227797555
https://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201012/cmselect/cmenvfru/1266/1266we06.htm
Rob Thompson
New Member
That is just what I was hoping for, Thank you very much sir
Wheatseeker
Member
No ACCS sticker = no completed passport= no movement/ rejection at most places and most definitely any directly entering the food chain.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
A few non reg farms round here feed their grain to animals and as far as I know people eventually eat them.
- Location
- Near Colchester
I buy non assured grain from a merchant to feed my (non-assured) pigs, I get it for £1 per tonne less than the market.
- Location
- Northumberland
My beef & lamb assurance "recommends" the feeding of assured grain, so I'm dropping out of it for crops as haven't sold any for a few years. I can also feed farm-to-farm non assured grain. No doubt the recommendation will become a requirement. I still have to comply with statuary requirements (like spray records, less frequent sprayer test), but the monitoring of this is less clear - trading standards/cross compliance?
Trading standards treat farm assured (of all sectors) units as lower risk, so there is a small secondary benefit of less scrutiny from that side.
- Location
- roe valley
I am not FA for grain i get the same money as if it were. It has only ever mentioned a couple of times once about 9-10 year ago when everyone was getting good money even then there was only a couple of pounds in it. Then there was another time about 5 years ago the merchant took one load of grain and rang later on looking for a FA passport or he wasnt going to pay the agreed amount bearing in mind they buy the vast majority of our grain every year. Reckon he was trying his hand.
I've always been non-assured, and for the the first decade or so there was no difference between assured and non-assured. However over the past few years, possibly due to the market for N/A grain decreasing, the price I get from my usual merchant has been £4-5 less.
As far I'm concerned the whole thing is a racket, with most N/A grain disappearing into the system and probably miraculously reappearing in the same pile as A grain, making merchants a nice little earner on the proportion that they get the N/A "discount" on.
As someone says, the cost of inspection is one thing, but the cost of compliance is absolutely another. My farm used to produce milling wheat for decades before the introduction of assurance, but the small quantities involved in the cost of compliance and inspection make the game not worth the candle.
The only genuine outlet that I know of for N/A wheat is my local bird sanctuary, which takes 75% or so of my grain every year. Those birds have more sense than the idiots who foisted assurance on us.
And don't get me started on the injustice of the electronic grain passport...
As far I'm concerned the whole thing is a racket, with most N/A grain disappearing into the system and probably miraculously reappearing in the same pile as A grain, making merchants a nice little earner on the proportion that they get the N/A "discount" on.
As someone says, the cost of inspection is one thing, but the cost of compliance is absolutely another. My farm used to produce milling wheat for decades before the introduction of assurance, but the small quantities involved in the cost of compliance and inspection make the game not worth the candle.
The only genuine outlet that I know of for N/A wheat is my local bird sanctuary, which takes 75% or so of my grain every year. Those birds have more sense than the idiots who foisted assurance on us.
And don't get me started on the injustice of the electronic grain passport...
Farmer Miggins
Member
- Location
- East Anglia
surely you don't need a passport if not QA?
Oh yes, you still need one of those yellow forms every time you send off a load, it's just lacking one of those little stickers on the upper right to say it's assured.
I expect that I would still need to submit an electronic form if they ever came in, but hopefully, in their present form, that will never happen.
I expect that I would still need to submit an electronic form if they ever came in, but hopefully, in their present form, that will never happen.
Farmer Miggins
Member
- Location
- East Anglia
So is that a contractual obligation? I didn't think it was statutory
- Location
- Lincolnshire
It was invented so you could show in store chemical treatments so they didnt get treated twice.
- Location
- Romney Marsh
Ready for the next revised set of RT standards !!
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http://www.farmbusiness.co.uk/uncat...utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=FB+Weekly+Email
Exactly, and my main grain buyer won't buy if I don't give the driver one of those yellow forms.
There's also a box to sign dealing with something about sustainable production methods, just for the box tickers amongst us.
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