Finding tenant farmers and tenant farmer experiences

Wild Carrot

Member
(If you rent out your land to someone),
1. How did you find your current tenant farmer/s?
2. Have you ever had any particular problems finding someone to work your land?
3. What kind of farming does your tenant farmer/s currently do?
4. Do you have a longstanding relationship with your tenant farmer/s?
5. How much contact/communication do you have with your tenant farmer/s?
6. In your personal experience, what would you say is the biggest pro & con of being involved with tenant farming?

(If you rent someone's land),
1. How did you find the person whose land you rent?
2. Have you ever had any particular problems finding someone's land to rent?
3. What kind of farming do you do?
4. Do you have a longstanding relationship with the person whose land you rent?
5. How much contact/communication do you have with them?
6. In your personal experience, what would you say is the biggest pro & con of being involved with tenant farming?

Thank you for your time (and any replies are very much appreciated)
 
I rent and rent out, so both,

1. Market and neighbour contacts of contacts, good names.
2. No - selective and go on reputation, good names are good for a reason.
3. Sheep for me, cattle for that I let out.
4. Yes.
5. As and when needed, good relationships on the whole so tea and beer.
6. Short tenures limit investment and mean land rented is usually poor and getting poorer in quality, and renting out, is done only temp as short of stock, so only problem is planning.
 

Wild Carrot

Member
Thank you for the reply Coximus! (If you don't mind), I have a few questions in regards to your response;

"Sheep for me, cattle for that I let out"

Why did you choose things that way around?

"Short tenures limit investment"

What would you consider an ideal length tenure (or one uncomfortably short for that matter)? How long have the tenures you have agreed to typically been?
 
I don't keep cattle and have grass that over ran me so let it off for cattle rather than waste it. the ground was too awkward to make it worth cutting. normally would of grazed it myself but short on numbers this year.

I have a mix from 364day licence through to 7year fbts.
everything has it's place but ideally 3year minimum for all parties if the land is to be looked after properly. that said short grazing let's over winter work well if it's to the benefit of both parties... ie on an arable unit.

why do you ask?
 

Wild Carrot

Member
Coximus I am just trying to learn as much as possible (so am interested in other people's experiences). I know these things can be very variable (and I appreciate your replies).
 
are you a farmer - or doing academic research? I dont mind answering, but the questions are somewhat basic and could be answered by listening to conversations at mart in 5 mins, as most deals and work are done on the grapevine, so the question is very much an outsider type one.
 

Wild Carrot

Member
Coximus none of the above! My intro post is on this page in this thread: page-123thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/introduce-yourself.34491/page-123

Farming is something that I want to get into but my knowledge is lacking (and I have next to no people in my current life who have any real experience in agriculture). Hence joining this forum (and all the questions).
 
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Wild Carrot

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I live in Hampshire. My main objective at the moment is to just try and buy a bit of field (as much as possible of course though). Which once secured, I was thinking about renting out for a few years while I get to grips with all there is to know about land management. However I don't want to be a mere land owner; in the long-term I want to have a much more hands-on role in working the land.

I only very recently managed to accumulate enough money to have any real chance of buying some land. But I want to buy locally. But land near or around my area only comes up for sale sporadically. And at the moment it all seems to be either be complete farms (not what I am looking for and a million miles out of my final league at the moment!) or small tracts of woodland. Which although nice (and considerably more affordable), I don't think woodland is what I am really looking for either.

This is not the first time I have looked into the prospect of buying land. I did have an opportunity about 4 years ago. But I felt that I didn't have enough money at the time (that it was too much of a financial squeeze) and so I held off my plans to continue saving up more. But land prices continued to go up so much more after that and life got so much more expensive, that as the next few years rolled by, the prospect of ever buying any land looked more and more unrealistic. I severely regretted passing by my opportunity to buy land (and I tried to ignore any thoughts of returning back to the land).

But now it looks like I might have another chance. And I don't want to let it pass me by this time! So I am now watching like a hawk what is coming up for sale in the area (and trying to really get my act in gear in trying to educate myself and learn from other people's experience as much as possible). Even if it's reckless, I would rather buy now (and learn as I go along) than pass this opportunity up (for fear of not being ready yet etc).

I have absolutely no idea what is going to happen after all this Brexit business. Maybe land will go up in price, maybe it will go down! And I have no idea if I will be richer or poorer by then (although I worry that we will all be a bit poorer :/). So now more than ever, I want to grab life by the hojo's (and not let opportunities pass me by).

I am going to have to go through an intense amount of learning (and I am afraid that some of my questions are inevitably going to be really basic). But I appreciate any replies (and people reading my long waffling posts!). I am very interested in other people's experiences in agricultural matters and I will do my best to read as much as I can here every day!
 

Wild Carrot

Member
How much land are we talking?

If I cash in on some investments, I could potentially have a land budget of up to about 200 grand. In terms of how much I am aiming to buy, well, as much as possible really!
But I also know that how much I get for my money is going to be dependent on so many different factors.

https://dairy.ahdb.org.uk/market-in...es/land-prices/land-prices-rics/#.WWDE2qDTXqA


I am very flexible. In the more immediate future, I simply want to return back to the land (to own my own field and to farm it). And of course, I want to generate a profit from the venture. But it's not all first and foremost about profit for me- (while of course I want to be able to reinvest), I also want to do a good service to the land.

And in the longer term...Well although it probably sounds silly to some, but I have always wanted to grow and have an Orchard (I also feel quite passionate about conserving British wildlife). I don't know if this further dream is in any way realistic. But at least for the moment, my primary focus is on finding and securing some land for myself (and learning as much as possible of course!).
 
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New Puritan

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Location
East Sussex
(If you rent someone's land),
1. How did you find the person whose land you rent?
2. Have you ever had any particular problems finding someone's land to rent?
3. What kind of farming do you do?
4. Do you have a longstanding relationship with the person whose land you rent?
5. How much contact/communication do you have with them?
6. In your personal experience, what would you say is the biggest pro & con of being involved with tenant farming?

I'm a tenant on a very small farm I run part-time,
1. Friend of a friend
2. I wasn't particularly looking to become a farmer but it happened anyway
3. Arable combinables
4. Nope
5. A fair bit - the landlord lives at the farm (I don't), but I see him most times I'm there
6. Balancing wanting to invest for the future and try different things with the knowledge I could be turfed off within 5 years...
 

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