Aberfield

reverand · Jul 24, 2017

I am surprised at that. I would of thought a Chev mule up around 170%. My pure Chevs are 150% ish

MJT · Jul 24, 2017

ford4000 said:
Would you expect aberfield x cheviot ewes to scan lower than cheviot ewes though?

No, I know couple of guys with a lot of chev and Welsh x aberfield ewes and they do 180% plus every year.

neilo · Jul 24, 2017

reverand said:
I am surprised at that. I would of thought a Chev mule up around 170%. My pure Chevs are 150% ish

The guy I was talking to said his Cheviots were doing around 150%, the Aberfield crosses out of them around 130%. You might put it down to the influence of one ram, but they were sired by a big group.

I was surprised tbh.

reverand · Jul 24, 2017

I'm not going to like that. I will find out in a few months what shearling do

CopperBeech · Jul 24, 2017

Our Aberfield x ewe lambs did 130....

reverand · Jul 25, 2017

Chev aberfield mule shearling. Been on the a white moor since February with no feed

Chev x aberfield lamb. Sorry about the wall

reverand · Jul 25, 2017

Same but twins

Bob the beef · Jul 25, 2017

You do have to be very careful and pay close attention to the ebv for each tup when you are buying them. From memory I think there are 5 nucleus flocks breeding for the main traits of - litter size / growth rate / maternal ability/ final ewe size , and carcase. The tups from each flock are crossed over each year. You need to purchase on which traits are most important to your situation. I bought mine with high maternal figures and decent growth rate , but poorer final ewe size numbers, as I am aiming to lamb more outside and move as much as possible onto grass wintering.
At the moment My chev/mule ewes are getting too big, and my scotch mule ewes are producing too many lambs, leading to lots of hassle at lambing from twin lamb and prolapsed. Hoping the aberfield will give me something near a half way house

gatepost · Jul 25, 2017

Bob the beef said:
You do have to be very careful and pay close attention to the ebv for each tup when you are buying them. From memory I think there are 5 nucleus flocks breeding for the main traits of - litter size / growth rate / maternal ability/ final ewe size , and carcase. The tups from each flock are crossed over each year. You need to purchase on which traits are most important to your situation. I bought mine with high maternal figures and decent growth rate , but poorer final ewe size numbers, as I am aiming to lamb more outside and move as much as possible onto grass wintering.
At the moment My chev/mule ewes are getting too big, and my scotch mule ewes are producing too many lambs, leading to lots of hassle at lambing from twin lamb and prolapsed. Hoping the aberfield will give me something near a half way house

As a matter of interest what are you going to cross them with? pure ewes or xbreds.

Bob the beef · Jul 25, 2017

I use them on pure NC cheviot ewes. Lambed them twice now and like what I've got. Medium sized white head ewe

neilo · Jul 25, 2017

reverand said:
View attachment 555058 Chev x aberfield lamb. Sorry about the wall

Do you know anyone that could teach how to rebuild that wall?

reverand · Jul 25, 2017

That's way beyond my capabilities

ford4000 · Jul 25, 2017

Bob the beef said:
You do have to be very careful and pay close attention to the ebv for each tup when you are buying them. From memory I think there are 5 nucleus flocks breeding for the main traits of - litter size / growth rate / maternal ability/ final ewe size , and carcase. The tups from each flock are crossed over each year. You need to purchase on which traits are most important to your situation. I bought mine with high maternal figures and decent growth rate , but poorer final ewe size numbers, as I am aiming to lamb more outside and move as much as possible onto grass wintering.
At the moment My chev/mule ewes are getting too big, and my scotch mule ewes are producing too many lambs, leading to lots of hassle at lambing from twin lamb and prolapsed. Hoping the aberfield will give me something near a half way house

Here's the record for last one I bought, not the highest for litter score, but as I'm crossing with Lleyns I wasn't as worried as I would be, crossing with cheviots say.

bread bin · Jul 25, 2017

Bob the beef said:
You do have to be very careful and pay close attention to the ebv for each tup when you are buying them. From memory I think there are 5 nucleus flocks breeding for the main traits of - litter size / growth rate / maternal ability/ final ewe size , and carcase. The tups from each flock are crossed over each year. You need to purchase on which traits are most important to your situation. I bought mine with high maternal figures and decent growth rate , but poorer final ewe size numbers, as I am aiming to lamb more outside and move as much as possible onto grass wintering.
At the moment My chev/mule ewes are getting too big, and my scotch mule ewes are producing too many lambs, leading to lots of hassle at lambing from twin lamb and prolapsed. Hoping the aberfield will give me something near a half way house

What about mastitis? is it much of problem with the texel influence.

bread bin · Jul 25, 2017

Cheers for putting up the photos @reverand
Been thinking either going to try a Aberfield or Logie over my cheviots this year.

reverand · Jul 25, 2017

bread bin said:
Cheers for putting up the photos @reverand
Been thinking either going to try a Aberfield or Logie over my cheviots this year.

No prob. As lambs on the mother they need to be on some green ground to get the wether's going. I had some chevs on the moor with aberfield lambs and they didn't really get going till they went on the green ground. As older hoggs though they have been fine on the moor and grown well

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