Can you read this for me please?

Walterp

Member
Location
Pembrokeshire
The English were shocked to their core when (after being promised quick and easy victories by their leaders) they discovered that they were not as powerful or competent as they had been led to believe.

In the end it took three years, unprecedented brutality and ruthlessness against a civilian population, and an Army of 450,000 professional soldiers to defeat 35,000 Boer farmers.

It’s a national characteristic that the English prefer to do their soul-searching after taking poor decisions, rather than before. Put it down to over-confidence and ignorance, because I do.

Back then, the inevitable national enquiry (‘The Committee on Physical Deterioration‘ (est.1903)) subsequently discovered that keeping the working classes dirt-poor had the unintended consequence that, when you wanted them to fight, they were too rickety to do so. Notoriously, in some towns, as many as nine out of ten recruits for the British Army were rejected because they were so unfit.

If you ever wondered why and when free school meals were introduced, now you know: to improve the quality of recruits, ready for the next war.

A contemporary réprise of shock and humiliation now awaits the English when they discover that these days, when brain has replaced brawn as a nation’s dynamic, they are intellectually inferior. About 16% of adults are functionally illiterate, and OECD analysis reports British teenagers are the least literate, and least but one numerate, in the developed world.

Keeping the working classes ill-educated also has unintended consequences - the country proliferates low-skill jobs because that’s all many of our youngsters are good for - coolie labour.

I don’t know what the answer is this time, but I don’t think free school meals will do the trick.
 
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Pond digger

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Location
East Yorkshire
And just to compound the issue; are there going to be enough meaningful and worthwhile jobs for everyone to do? I just can't imagine there will be. With ever increasing mechanisation, and the advancements of robotics, drones etc, coupled with an ever increasing population, what is everyone going to do?
 

Hindsight

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
And just to compound the issue; are there going to be enough meaningful and worthwhile jobs for everyone to do? I just can't imagine there will be. With ever increasing mechanisation, and the advancements of robotics, drones etc, coupled with an ever increasing population, what is everyone going to do?


The facetious response is initially pick strawberries and cut cauliflowers once we take back control and get these blasted foreigners out of the country. (Sorry just had to be said - smiley face icon if I knew how to insert it!!)
 

Walterp

Member
Location
Pembrokeshire
And just to compound the issue; are there going to be enough meaningful and worthwhile jobs for everyone to do? I just can't imagine there will be. With ever increasing mechanisation, and the advancements of robotics, drones etc, coupled with an ever increasing population, what is everyone going to do?
Wrong end of the telescope: productivity is inversely related to the number of manual and low-skill jobs, which means every country gets richer as their agricultural sector shrinks.

US agriculture in 1900 had a large number of small farms and more than 50% of the U.S. population lived and worked there. In 2000 the number of US farms has decreased by 63% and less than 25% of the U.S. population lives in rural areas. They use 5 million tractors.

Yet the US has become the richest country in the world.

So the questions resolve into (1) how do we increase productivity to get better-off? and (2) how do we then share the proceeds of growth?

No one, on his death-bed, ever wished they'd spent more time at the office.
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
You made no mention of Wales, or Scotland, or NI...

Wrong end of the telescope: productivity is inversely related to the number of manual and low-skill jobs, which means every country gets richer as their agricultural sector shrinks.

US agriculture in 1900 had a large number of small farms and more than 50% of the U.S. population lived and worked there. In 2000 the number of US farms has decreased by 63% and less than 25% of the U.S. population lives in rural areas. They use 5 million tractors.

Yet the US has become the richest country in the world.

So the questions resolve into (1) how do we increase productivity to get better-off? and (2) how do we then share the proceeds of growth?

No one, on his death-bed, ever wished they'd spent more time at the office*.

*Jack Dromey will.
 

caveman

Member
Location
East Sussex.
The English were shocked to their core when (after being promised quick and easy victories by their leaders) they discovered that they were not as powerful or competent as they had been led to believe.

In the end it took three years, unprecedented brutality and ruthlessness against a civilian population, and an Army of 450,000 professional soldiers to defeat 35,000 Boer farmers.

It’s a national characteristic that the English prefer to do their soul-searching after taking poor decisions, rather than before. Put it down to over-confidence and ignorance, because I do.

Back then, the inevitable national enquiry (‘The Committee on Physical Deterioration‘ (est.1903)) subsequently discovered that keeping the working classes dirt-poor had the unintended consequence that, when you wanted them to fight, they were too rickety to do so. Notoriously, in some towns, as many as nine out of ten recruits for the British Army were rejected because they were so unfit.

If you ever wondered why and when free school meals were introduced, now you know: to improve the quality of recruits, ready for the next war.

A contemporary réprise of shock and humiliation now awaits the English when they discover that these days, when brain has replaced brawn as a nation’s dynamic, they are intellectually inferior. About 16% of adults are functionally illiterate, and OECD analysis reports British teenagers are the least literate, and least but one numerate, in the developed world.

Keeping the working classes ill-educated also has unintended consequences - the country proliferates low-skill jobs because that’s all many of our youngsters are good for - coolie labour.

I don’t know what the answer is this time, but I don’t think free school meals will do the trick.

As so much of the education system is stuffed full of folk preaching leftie ideology, is it any wonder?
 

rob1

Member
Location
wiltshire
Wrong end of the telescope: productivity is inversely related to the number of manual and low-skill jobs, which means every country gets richer as their agricultural sector shrinks.

US agriculture in 1900 had a large number of small farms and more than 50% of the U.S. population lived and worked there. In 2000 the number of US farms has decreased by 63% and less than 25% of the U.S. population lives in rural areas. They use 5 million tractors.

Yet the US has become the richest country in the world.

So the questions resolve into (1) how do we increase productivity to get better-off? and (2) how do we then share the proceeds of growth?

No one, on his death-bed, ever wished they'd spent more time at the office.
Yet they have huge numbers of desperately poor people and guess what the poor do all the jobs that those super educated office types think are beneath them .
As for the uk population remind who it was that introduced comprehensive education that in one stroke dragged the standard of education downwards, remind me who now demands that kids can never be losers but "succeed" at everything, we all know that is complete rubbish. The two tier system gave those with intelectual capabilities to push themselves and those without to learn practical skills that they could use .

One question Walter WHO is going to look after the elderly, who is going to sweep the streets, who is going to deliver all the purchases you make online? Do they need a university education to do those jobs? NO society can do without those people but the clever uni educated look down on them as second class and yet its the labour party that say they want everyone to do a high skill job
 

Pond digger

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Location
East Yorkshire
Wrong end of the telescope: productivity is inversely related to the number of manual and low-skill jobs, which means every country gets richer as their agricultural sector shrinks.

US agriculture in 1900 had a large number of small farms and more than 50% of the U.S. population lived and worked there. In 2000 the number of US farms has decreased by 63% and less than 25% of the U.S. population lives in rural areas. They use 5 million tractors.

Yet the US has become the richest country in the world.

So the questions resolve into (1) how do we increase productivity to get better-off? and (2) how do we then share the proceeds of growth?

No one, on his death-bed, ever wished they'd spent more time at the office.

I often wonder; must we have growth? Our "growth" is destroying the planet: isn't it time for some different thinking? I think it's more the case that we need to get smarter, not "grow" as such.
 

caveman

Member
Location
East Sussex.
I often wonder; must we have growth? Our "growth" is destroying the planet: isn't it time for some different thinking? I think it's more the case that we need to get smarter, not "grow" as such.

Does the cake get any bigger?
If it rises a bit more....... do the ingredients increase or does it just leave more air in the belly?
Do the smaller portions get any bigger and the bigger portions get smaller?
 

Walterp

Member
Location
Pembrokeshire
I often wonder; must we have growth? Our "growth" is destroying the planet: isn't it time for some different thinking? I think it's more the case that we need to get smarter, not "grow" as such.
In a country, and a world, with a rapidly increasing population we need to increase national production concomitantly just to ensure that GDP per capita stands still, let alone grows.

This is not a choice but an imperative, otherwise the pressure to redistribute existing wealth becomes irresistable.

Yet we are failing to do so - both UK and US GDP growth is below-par, and looks set to remain so.

This suggests, to me, two things: (1) an explanation for the search by British and American electorates for an alternative to the present state of economic stagnation and (2) why developed countries should increase their manufacturing bases (because that's where the productivity gains exist).

The implications, both for UK politics and for US attitudes towards free trade, are obvious.
 

baabaa

Member
Location
co Antrim
In a country, and a world, with a rapidly increasing population we need to increase national production concomitantly just to ensure that GDP per capita stands still, let alone grows.

This is not a choice but an imperative, otherwise the pressure to redistribute existing wealth becomes irresistable.

Yet we are failing to do so - both UK and US GDP growth is below-par, and looks set to remain so.

This suggests, to me, two things: (1) an explanation for the search by British and American electorates for an alternative to the present state of economic stagnation and (2) why developed countries should increase their manufacturing bases (because that's where the productivity gains exist).

The implications, both for UK politics and for US attitudes towards free trade, are obvious.
so why are you not applauding the weak pound caused by brexit which has given our manufacturers a much needed kick up the .....
 

RobFZS

Member
We're flat lining while all those that were below us, are just catching up, but i think it's too little too late for them
 

Pond digger

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Location
East Yorkshire
In a country, and a world, with a rapidly increasing population we need to increase national production concomitantly just to ensure that GDP per capita stands still, let alone grows.

This is not a choice but an imperative, otherwise the pressure to redistribute existing wealth becomes irresistable.

Yet we are failing to do so - both UK and US GDP growth is below-par, and looks set to remain so.

This suggests, to me, two things: (1) an explanation for the search by British and American electorates for an alternative to the present state of economic stagnation and (2) why developed countries should increase their manufacturing bases (because that's where the productivity gains exist).

The implications, both for UK politics and for US attitudes towards free trade, are obvious.

So we just carry on until we destroy the planet? Our current way of life is unsustainable!

We need to live smarter. As an example, consumer goods are going to have to be built to last, not designed to fall to bits. More production isn't always the right answer.

But, unless we go the whole hog, and return to cottage industry and artisan production, I can't see how we can have full employment as populations continue to increase. The way commerce works and the way we live, will have to change.
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
So we just carry on until we destroy the planet? Our current way of life is unsustainable!

We need to live smarter. As an example, consumer goods are going to have to be built to last, not designed to fall to bits. More production isn't always the right answer.

But, unless we go the whole hog, and return to cottage industry and artisan production, I can't see how we can have full employment as populations continue to increase. The way commerce works and the way we live, will have to change.
less folk then
 

RobFZS

Member
A weak pound means we all have to work harder to earn the same amount, not something to be applauded surely!
Seems to have done the dairy job a world of good, same production as last year yet 3p more than last year doing the same work , keeping out them cream imports , feed price about the same
 

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