Right-arm fast
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just wondered if anybody has one of these and using it on clay soils to create stale seed beds? Wanted something to run over stubbles fairly speedily using 170hp.
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Cousins Surface cultivator
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- Essex/Herts Border
@Rob Holmes has one
- Location
- Ashbourne, Derbyshire
Would be the ideal tool for the job, it was designed to create stale seedheds and get a BG chit
Right-arm fast
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Thanks, does it leave it consolidated enough do you think. What sort of width and forward speed would you achieve with 170hp? The YouTube vids show it boiling up some lumps not really conducive to getting a decent chit possibly?
Right-arm fast
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Me too and I thought they did when they first came out!
Didn't they call it a micro wing?
- Location
- Ashbourne, Derbyshire
The idea isn't to move the entire surface, but to get soil movement across the full width to encourage a chit,
we also demo'd a Kv CLC Procut which is the same idea but with sweep points and moved everything, one shower of rain and it was pudding
we also demo'd a Kv CLC Procut which is the same idea but with sweep points and moved everything, one shower of rain and it was pudding
- Location
- Ashbourne, Derbyshire
Not got any pics of it working (i will have in a week or so) but here are the results from one pass on over wintered stubble just prior to drilling
So you use it with your claydon instead of a terrastar or stubble rake?
- Location
- Ashbourne, Derbyshire
Yes, we just it in conjuction with stubble rake,
The plan for this autumn is to use it where there is heavy trash to chop and mix, then leave for 10-14 days until a flush then go with stubble rake, and repeat with stubble rake every 10-14 days until ready to drill, this helps with weeds although the main aim is to reduce slug populations and expose eggs,
We'll also use it after 2nd wheats into barley to try and minimise the number of wheat volunteers in the barley
The plan for this autumn is to use it where there is heavy trash to chop and mix, then leave for 10-14 days until a flush then go with stubble rake, and repeat with stubble rake every 10-14 days until ready to drill, this helps with weeds although the main aim is to reduce slug populations and expose eggs,
We'll also use it after 2nd wheats into barley to try and minimise the number of wheat volunteers in the barley
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- Ashbourne, Derbyshire
Today....
Right-arm fast
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Thanks for posting. Seems to be doing a good job. What horsepower is the Massey? Looks to be doing about 10 km/hr ? Is it 3m width?
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- Ashbourne, Derbyshire
160 hp, going 10 kph in video but most of field was done at 12 kph @ 1500 rpm
Right-arm fast
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Is it 3m ? Have you cambridge rolled behind ever to firm it up. What do you think it would do in heavy clay with the wheat straw chopped.? Sorry for all the questions.
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- Ashbourne, Derbyshire
Yes, 3m
Not cambridge rolled behind, the DD roller can be water ballasted, our's isn't
The field on video is heavy clay, and is one of the poorest on the farm, after years of running the Claydon we're now getting a nice tilth and structure, can't see it being a problem in chopped straw, as the reason we bought it was to incorporate OSR and bean trash which could block the drill
Not cambridge rolled behind, the DD roller can be water ballasted, our's isn't
The field on video is heavy clay, and is one of the poorest on the farm, after years of running the Claydon we're now getting a nice tilth and structure, can't see it being a problem in chopped straw, as the reason we bought it was to incorporate OSR and bean trash which could block the drill
I went to a meeting where Hutchinsons were promoting the cousins surface, he proudly stated the 6 metre version would move all the soil, it needs speed to do it, it's meant to kind of explode the surface with its rigid tines, and it would do this with just 300 hp to get 2 inches of soil moved.
Seemed a bit power hungry to me.
Seemed a bit power hungry to me.
I can't see why you would need so much HP either. A short disc would be a lower requirement and do a similar job?
Feldspar
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- Location
- Essex, Cambs and Suffolk
Interesting machine. What depth with the tines go down to (I appreciate it's a surface cultivator)?
- Location
- Ashbourne, Derbyshire
Ideal working range is 2-4 inches, ours is set around 2 inches
Feldspar
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- Location
- Essex, Cambs and Suffolk
Is 50 hp/m about right? Would you struggle with 250hp on a 6m on heavyish clay? How much life do you get out of the wearing metal? How well does it follow slight contours like shallow wheelings? How easy / difficult is the wearing metal to change? Thanks!
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