Confusion over PV connection to grid

Doing it for the kids · Jul 26, 2017

Less of the punches please lads

Carl butt was the technical team at Sse who has turned my PV world upside down!

on peak was really in response to the off peak meter - this is some ancient seasonal thing where the fans are only able to work at certain times of the year.

On peak could also be called the every supply to the farm meter at a fixed rate of 10.5p /kWh day and night

jcb360 · Jul 26, 2017

Doing it for the kids said:
Less of the punches please lads

Carl butt was the technical team at Sse who has turned my PV world upside down!

on peak was really in response to the off peak meter - this is some ancient seasonal thing where the fans are only able to work at certain times of the year.

On peak could also be called the every supply to the farm meter at a fixed rate of 10.5p /kWh day and night

What's the manufacturer and model of the on peak meter?

Check your meter is Appropriate on list available via this page:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/electricity-meters-feed-in-tariff-fit-scheme#approved-meters

There are some meters which aggregate import and export and display the sum as import - could this be happening? (Not necessarily an import/export meter but an anti fraud feature)

Doing it for the kids · Jul 26, 2017

Well there's a funny story about that

Not sure how to link discussions here but see my previous thread.

13 months ago a meter got changed, I told them on the day. 13 months later they came out to change it again, 20 min later they shut the farm down and go off with my fuses! That was over 2 weeks ago.

Need these meters back asap, wheats coming in in a few days, need fans working!

jcb360 · Jul 27, 2017

Doing it for the kids said:
Well there's a funny story about that

Not sure how to link discussions here but see my previous thread.

13 months ago a meter got changed, I told them on the day. 13 months later they came out to change it again, 20 min later they shut the farm down and go off with my fuses! That was over 2 weeks ago.

Need these meters back asap, wheats coming in in a few days, need fans working!

So what did your "electrician" do with the original meter?

What type of meter did the electrician fit?

akaPABLO01 · Jul 27, 2017

jcb360 said:
Hence your comment:
"Ok, ready for the naysayers and disagreements, come on."

I rest my case.......☺

I object to you resting your case as you've been involved within this thread you literally have not offered any constructive advice. In fact, you are relieved now and may retire.

@Doing it for the kids
Your Peak meter is your main meter which has "tariff 1" and "tariff 2" when scrolling through the display? Seems you have multiple sub meters. Where exactly is the pv connected?

jcb360 · Jul 27, 2017

akaPABLO01 said:
I object to you resting your case as you've been involved within this thread you literally have not offered any constructive advice. In fact, you are relieved now and may retire.

Your arrogance and lack of understanding of basic electrical theory is astounding.

Let me guess.....you're an ex double glazing salesman with a few years experience in the renewables game?

Are you asking me or telling me to no longer post within this thread?

We haven't even established the make and model of the Peak meter, so how do you even know for certain that it has the capability to display tariff 1 and tariff 2?

If you re read my posts, you will see that I previously asked where the PV was connected.......

jcb360 · Jul 27, 2017

akaPABLO01 said:
I've been awaiting this question from you lot, a very interesting one as well, and many a disagreement I've had with nearly everyone I've told.

Have you ever considered that those disagreements may be due to the fact that you are wrong? ☺

Doing it for the kids · Jul 27, 2017

Original meter which had no digital function got swopped for another which turned out to be non compliant.

That meter aka Sse meter / on peak meter only had one tariff for day and night

jcb360 · Jul 27, 2017

Doing it for the kids said:
Original meter which had no digital function got swopped for another which turned out to be non compliant.

That meter aka Sse meter / on peak meter only had one tariff for day and night

Non compliant as it was fitted by your electrician rather than SSE? If so, you are running the risk of SSE prosecuting you/your electrician!

If that's the case, I doubt that SSE will accept the kWh reading from this "non compliant" meter.

Where is the original SSE meter? Did your electrician keep this or dispose of it?

To be honest, if your electrician is capable of making such a cowboy move of removing an SSE meter, I would question whether your PV was connected on the load or supply side of the meter.

From your other post on the subject, your DNO judges some of the electrical work as not meeting regulations - is this correct?

Can of worms doesn't even start to describe the situation you are in. If I was in your position I would be taking legal advice and looking for a competent electrician.

Doing it for the kids · Jul 27, 2017

Non compliant fitted by non SSE man.

original meter got taken back by SSE when they came out look at it a year ago!

They haven't, been out and disconnected as a result but should be back on in a few days.

this was nothing to do with the PV which was done by a large solar company several year before.

SSE have now sorted all issues and we have resolved them, just waiting for meter man now...

jcb360 · Jul 27, 2017

Doing it for the kids said:
Non compliant fitted by non SSE man.

original meter got taken back by SSE when they came out look at it a year ago!

They haven't, been out and disconnected as a result but should be back on in a few days.

this was nothing to do with the PV which was done by a large solar company several year before.

SSE have now sorted all issues and we have resolved them, just waiting for meter man now...

Good to hear you've sorted out the issues with SSE.

So you're absolutely certain that the large solar company connected on the load side of the SSE meter and your electrician hasn't changed this connection point during the recent works?

You should ensure that the meter fitted by SSE in the next few days is compatible with micro generation - see my previous post on this matter.

akaPABLO01 · Jul 27, 2017

jcb360 said:
Your arrogance and lack of understanding of basic electrical theory is astounding.

Let me guess.....you're an ex double glazing salesman with a few years experience in the renewables game?

Are you asking me or telling me to no longer post within this thread?

.......

You are funny (for lack of a better word)

Wow, wrong again, again & again. Your value on the thread contributed nothing at all. Albeit, after being shown the error of your way and the fact that your trolling never phased me, you currently seem to be offering a "little" support.

Furthermore, I'll take the few years in renewbles as a compliment considering my wealth of knowledge I have and your lack of respect acknowledging.

I'll let you decide on your last question.

So @Doing it for the kids your problem is your supply meter and currently this is being resolved? Amateur installers eh? You'll probably have similar stories I guess @jcb360 ?

jcb360 · Jul 27, 2017

akaPABLO01 said:
You are funny (for lack of a better word)

Wow, wrong again, again & again. Your value on the thread contributed nothing at all. Albeit, after being shown the error of your way and the fact that your trolling never phased me, you currently seem to be offering a "little" support.

Furthermore, I'll take the few years in renewbles as a compliment considering my wealth of knowledge I have and your lack of respect acknowledging.

I'll let you decide on your last question.

So @Doing it for the kids your problem is your supply meter and currently this is being resolved? Amateur installers eh? You'll probably have similar stories I guess @jcb360 ?

I think you're confusing a challenge to you're lack of fundamental electrical knowledge with trolling, but anyway.......

Can you please explain in detail to us why SSE are correct with their explanation to the OP:

"However, I have been told today that all PV generated leaves the panels and goes straight into the grid, not via any farm demand first."

You and SSE seem to have a different opinion to everyone else who has commented on this thread.

e3120 · Jul 27, 2017

I'm led to wonder if AKAPablo has a cousin called John

. Maybe they've never been seen together, hence the AKA.

akaPABLO01 · Jul 28, 2017

e3120 said:
I'm led to wonder if AKAPablo has a cousin called John . Maybe they've never been seen together, hence the AKA.

Nope, you're putting 2&2 together and making 5

warksfarmer · Jul 28, 2017

Just had our quarterly figure in today which off a 70kw system was 23980 kwh between 27/04 and 20/07 which at 38.5p/kWh is not bad going and the panels were due a clean having not been done for about 2 years.

akaPABLO01 · Jul 28, 2017

warksfarmer said:
Just had our quarterly figure in today which off a 70kw system was 23980 kwh between 27/04 and 20/07 which at 38.5p/kWh is not bad going and the panels were due a clean having not been done for about 2 years.

Only clean them February or March no other time or it'll take longer to recover the cost.

warksfarmer · Jul 28, 2017

akaPABLO01 said:
Only clean them February or March no other time or it'll take longer to recover the cost.

It's July so we've got 4 months left of good production yet. Had them cleaned a week ago.

jcb360 · Jul 28, 2017

akaPABLO01 said:
Only clean them February or March no other time or it'll take longer to recover the cost.

Anyway, back to my question in post #53, could you please enlighten us with your self professed wealth of knowledge?

akaPABLO01 · Jul 28, 2017

jcb360 said:
Anyway, back to my question in post #53, could you please enlighten us with your self professed wealth of knowledge?

You are definitely bored. You're like one of those large turds that will not flush no matter how long you leave it festering in bleach. You need a good birch to brake that me thinks. No doubt I'll see you on another post.

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