Pick up prices

ricky_rascal

Member
Location
N. Yorks
Does the regen come up on dash ?

2 in 55 miles is crazy

Done 70,000 miles in my CRV iDTEC 2.2 and don't think I have ever noticed it regen at all in those miles

Not crazy according to dealer. Yes it comes up on dash though I know when it regen as engine sounds a bit rough. DPF issue started a few months back as previous to that it was fine. Dpf issue aside, it's been ok with no other issues. Bit greedy though.
 

Farmer Roy

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Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
Just a question, even if not the right place?

It seems like you lot are having a lot of issues with the new diesels & their emissions gear. If that is common, why not buy petrol ones instead? Am I right in remembering that you can't run red diesel in road vehicles ?
 

GTB

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Just a question, even if not the right place?

It seems like you lot are having a lot of issues with the new diesels & their emissions gear. If that is common, why not buy petrol ones instead? Am I right in remembering that you can't run red diesel in road vehicles ?
Diesels were much cheaper to run when they became popular in the 80s. Also diesel can be stored on farm and old diesel vehicles can be run on red for off road use only so many farm pickups end their life this way. I'm not sure that modern diesels with all the emissions crap are much cheaper to run than petrol now. My friend has a 1.1 turbo petrol in a Ford Focus and it goes as well as most 1.6/1.8 of the past. Our Dmax averages about 17mpg doing mostly short runs and mostly towing. How much worse would a petrol be?
 

GTB

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
But then, if you are using your Utes to tow heavy trailers, moving animals, then surely you'd be driving past a or not far from a servo at some point during the week ?
Yes and we're lucky here in that the village garage is only a mile away. We only store red in bulk, petrol we only buy 25 litres at a time and derv we buy from the garage as needed. It's not worth us buying derv in bulk. We'd have to pay for it before we'd used it and it could be sitting in the tank for weeks (waiting to be stolen) whereas buying from the garage on a monthly account helps keep the garage in business and fuel is paid for the month after its used. ;)
 

ricky_rascal

Member
Location
N. Yorks
Just a question, even if not the right place?

It seems like you lot are having a lot of issues with the new diesels & their emissions gear. If that is common, why not buy petrol ones instead? Am I right in remembering that you can't run red diesel in road vehicles ?

Don't think there is a petrol pickup available in UK? Emissions gear isn't helping fuel consumption but we live in a different world now and not acceptable to be blowing noxious partical laden fumes into the atmosphere. Think a lot of new diesels are running fine but always a few with issues.
 

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
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Yes and we're lucky here in that the village garage is only a mile away. We only store red in bulk, petrol we only buy 25 litres at a time and derv we buy from the garage as needed. It's not worth us buying derv in bulk. We'd have to pay for it before we'd used it and it could be sitting in the tank for weeks (waiting to be stolen) whereas buying from the garage on a monthly account helps keep the garage in business and fuel is paid for the month after its used. ;)
Garages just 25 miles down the road from you stopped doing monthly accounts about 15 years ago.
For me, buying bulk road diesel has worked well over the years and is far more convenient, especially at night in Winter when fuel stations shut early.

Yes, you can store petrol on the farm but the underground storage, standards, inspections and general hassle means that hardly any private businesses do any longer.

I've had petrol pickups in the past. And SUV's. They were horrendously thirsty.

EDIT
I did have a petrol LR 2 ¼ 88" very early in the 1980's and it averaged 8mpg with me. 15 was possible in theory. The V8 injected RR auto did 15 on a good day but on road work only.
Petrol for lighter road cars is great, but not for working commercials and not for me with my own storage and doing long distance and higher annual milage.
 
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Farmer Roy

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Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
Don't think there is a petrol pickup available in UK? Emissions gear isn't helping fuel consumption but we live in a different world now and not acceptable to be blowing noxious partical laden fumes into the atmosphere. Think a lot of new diesels are running fine but always a few with issues.

No petrol ones ?
Obviously Dmax is diesel only & also Amarok I think, but as far as I know all the others have petrol variants here. Definitely the Hilux & Ranger come with pretty powerful petrols . . .

Ok, another question ( sorry )
Are they all dual cabs, or do you get single & space cab versions ?
I always thought the dual cabs were a bit limited as serious work vehicles due to the smaller cargo space & the fact all the load is behind the rear axle
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
No petrol ones ?
Obviously Dmax is diesel only & also Amarok I think, but as far as I know all the others have petrol variants here. Definitely the Hilux & Ranger come with pretty powerful petrols . . .

Ok, another question ( sorry )
Are they all dual cabs, or do you get single & space cab versions ?
I always thought the dual cabs were a bit limited as serious work vehicles due to the smaller cargo space & the fact all the load is behind the rear axle
Yes we can get the whole range from chassis-cabs up to full spec double cabs. My previous Ranger was a space cab but they are not popular new or used. I would have bought another but none in stock at the time. Like you I did consider that the tray in the double cab was a bit limiting but in practice this has not been the case, or very very seldom. I can't fit two 4ft round bales of hay or straw in the back of my current one.
 
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Farmer mk1

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Arable Farmer
Location
Sheffield
We had a hilux 66 plate at the start of the year and paid £20k for it on the nail. We dealt at 21500 for it but they messed us around so we told them to cancel it, a few days later they rang us saying how to get the deal back and we said do it for 20k otherwise I'm buying a ranger, and they did it. Simple. Oh this was the icon version of hilux. Mid range but has everything you need.
 

Farmer Roy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
Yes we can get the whole range from chassis-cabs up to full spec double cabs. My previous Ranger was a space cab but they are not popular new or used. I would have bought another but none in stock at the time. Like you I did consider that the tray in the double cab was a bit limiting but in practice this has not been the case, or very very seldom. I can't fit two 4ft round bales of hay or straw in the back of my current one.

Haha - by the time I put my toolboxes & air compressor in the back I'd be lucky to have room for a lunch box :)
 

jellybean

Member
Location
N.Devon
No petrol ones ?
Obviously Dmax is diesel only & also Amarok I think, but as far as I know all the others have petrol variants here. Definitely the Hilux & Ranger come with pretty powerful petrols . . .

Ok, another question ( sorry )
Are they all dual cabs, or do you get single & space cab versions ?
I always thought the dual cabs were a bit limited as serious work vehicles due to the smaller cargo space & the fact all the load is behind the rear axle

Most pickups you see here are double cabs. Personally I cannot see why you would have one, there is very little load space. Here is my current vehicle; ranger tipper, 10 years old and hopefully do another 10. I will not be buying anything with a DPF and all the regen crap. I have seen how much they really cost in the not so long term!
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I did import a Landcruiser HJ75 pickup back in the 80's which was the best work vehicle I ever owned.
Should the Ford Ranger not last me out then maybe the only alternative would be to import a petrol pickup
with a sensible sized engine. The beauty of the above tipper is that you can load side or back with pallet forks.

The whole transport system needs changing; even if we cannot run diesel vehicles and replace them with petrol we still have far too many on the road. Still have all those rubber tyres to pollute and still have congested roads. How about de-materialising the goods in one place and re-materialising them in another?:)
 

Farmer Roy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
Most pickups you see here are double cabs. Personally I cannot see why you would have one, there is very little load space. Here is my current vehicle; ranger tipper, 10 years old and hopefully do another 10. I will not be buying anything with a DPF and all the regen crap. I have seen how much they really cost in the not so long term!
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I did import a Landcruiser HJ75 pickup back in the 80's which was the best work vehicle I ever owned.
Should the Ford Ranger not last me out then maybe the only alternative would be to import a petrol pickup
with a sensible sized engine. The beauty of the above tipper is that you can load side or back with pallet forks.

The whole transport system needs changing; even if we cannot run diesel vehicles and replace them with petrol we still have far too many on the road. Still have all those rubber tyres to pollute and still have congested roads. How about de-materialising the goods in one place and re-materialising them in another?:)

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I much prefer them to the softcock show ponies :)
 

GTB

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Most pickups you see here are double cabs. Personally I cannot see why you would have one, there is very little load space. Here is my current vehicle; ranger tipper, 10 years old and hopefully do another 10. I will not be buying anything with a DPF and all the regen crap. I have seen how much they really cost in the not so long term!
View attachment 556956

I did import a Landcruiser HJ75 pickup back in the 80's which was the best work vehicle I ever owned.
Should the Ford Ranger not last me out then maybe the only alternative would be to import a petrol pickup
with a sensible sized engine. The beauty of the above tipper is that you can load side or back with pallet forks.

The whole transport system needs changing; even if we cannot run diesel vehicles and replace them with petrol we still have far too many on the road. Still have all those rubber tyres to pollute and still have congested roads. How about de-materialising the goods in one place and re-materialising them in another?:)
We find a double cab very handy. There's often two or three of us plus spare coats, drenching guns etc etc and lunch boxes etc. We only put dogs in the back usually and the back of a double cab is plenty big enough. If we take the canopy off a one ton dumpy bag of feed or ballast fits in easily we can also put a ton of 25kg bags in so I'm not sure we'd need anything bigger.
 

hally

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
cumbria
I know a guy with a Dmax, I asked him last weekend about the regen, he said he'd never ever noticed it doing a regen, if it wasn't for the smell, he'd never ever know! Amazing that two can be so different :scratchhead:
Ours is like it's only the smell that tells you that you are regenerating if you have the display on a different reading If you know what I mean. The D max has many faults but that is not one worth losing sleep over.
 

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