Oilseed rape establishment

Laminated · Aug 22, 2017

So I thought we could do a osr establishment comparison

Previous crop : winter wheat
Cultivation 1: disk
Cultivation 2: DTX with seeder
Cultivation 3: simba double press and roll.
Variety: Nikita
Seed rate: 1.5kg/acre edit
Farm average yield: 4.8t/ha

This is my cultivation technique. We get a chit after wheat and drilled today

Please fill in and share your method

pipestretcher · Aug 22, 2017

Brave seed rate.

Laminated · Aug 22, 2017

pipestretcher said:
Brave seed rate.

Typo per acre!!

Grass And Grain · Aug 22, 2017

Disc
Subsoil
Combi drill
Roll

3.5kg/ha conventional

5t/ha this year. 3t/ha in 2016.

Not the most efficient establishment technique, but uses the kit we've got and only a small acreage.

Adeptandy · Aug 22, 2017

Cousins Patriot
Simba Freeflow
Rolls

Done 4kg/ha conventional and 3kg/ha Hybrid with 3 kg/ha Mustard as a trial

Different method this year, last 3 succumbed to CSFB

Previous was....Patriot with Opico Air 8 and then Rolls

tw15 · Aug 22, 2017

Broadcast hss seed off the heap and rake at the same time then rolled twice shut the gate a few sluggies to go on and a bit of liquid fert and wait just put 90 acres in the rest has to wait as wheat still to be cut.

Flat 10 · Aug 22, 2017

Adeptandy said:
Cousins Patriot
Simba Freeflow
Rolls

Done 4kg/ha conventional and 3kg/ha Hybrid with 3 kg/ha Mustard as a trial

Different method this year, last 3 succumbed to CSFB

Previous was....Patriot with Opico Air 8 and then Rolls

Have you sold the vad? Always thought they were the business for osr drilling.

Shutesy · Aug 22, 2017

Previous crop: Winter Barley (part chopped/part baled)
Cultivation 1: Stubble rake (asap post harvest)
Spray: 2l/ha 540g/l Glyphosate (3 days prior to drilling)
Sow: Sumo DTS (14-15th August)
Cultivation 2: Roll
Variety: Elgar
Seedrate: 5.6kg/ha
5kg/ha pellets and 100l/ha 17.8.0 liquid fert applied with drill
Coming up nicely, monitoring closely for slugs and flea beetle.

Laminated · Aug 23, 2017

how vital do you think seed bed N is? In deciding if I'm going to use it this year

Laminated · Aug 23, 2017

This is how we consolidate after drilling to limit slug movement. No pellets used

Brisel · Aug 23, 2017

If that doesn't give the slugs a headache, nothing will!

Seedbed N? I've never regretted it yet, though a kind autumn makes me think I could have saved my money though much will be stored in the crop over winter and save a bit in the spring. IMHO. The trouble is, you won't know the true answer until Christmas...

Brisel · Aug 23, 2017

Bales spring barley straw off
2 l/ha glyphosate and water conditioner on some of the stubbles where there has been a bit of weed growth
Straw rake to clear the lumps of straw the baler left behind
Claydon drill with home saved uncleaned undressed Picto at 65 seeds/m2 (old seed with 79% germination)
Roll & apply pellets at the same time
30 kg/ha N as liquid through the sprayer
Pre em Centium for hedge mustard and cleavers
Watch slugs and apply a second dose of pellets 5-10 days after the first one.

warksfarmer · Aug 23, 2017

Glyphosate 4l/ha in 200l water
15kg/ha off the heap to feed the pigeons and slugs.
No Till drilled
Rolled

Leave it till the new year. If there's a crop herbicide and nitrogen/digestate. If there's no crop then spring linseed or spring barley. If it's to thick then more than likely spray some crop out with adapted fertiliser bars and glyphosate and delay the digestate/nitrogen application to manipulate the growth.

Oat · Aug 23, 2017

warksfarmer said:
Glyphosate 4l/ha in 200l water
15kg/ha off the heap to feed the pigeons and slugs.
No Till drilled
Rolled

Leave it till the new year. If there's a crop herbicide and nitrogen/digestate. If there's no crop then spring linseed or spring barley. If it's to thick then more than likely spray some crop out with adapted fertiliser bars and glyphosate and delay the digestate/nitrogen application to manipulate the growth.

I can understand wanting to leave it until new year to see if actually have a viable crop, but are not limited on your herbicide options by then, and potentially the crop has already suffered from weed competition?
What herbicides would you use- Kerb, Astrokerb, Crawler? and would these clear up most of the weed spectrum you have?

Luke Cropwalker · Aug 23, 2017

warksfarmer said:
Glyphosate 4l/ha in 200l water
15kg/ha off the heap to feed the pigeons and slugs.
No Till drilled
Rolled

Leave it till the new year. If there's a crop herbicide and nitrogen/digestate. If there's no crop then spring linseed or spring barley. If it's to thick then more than likely spray some crop out with adapted fertiliser bars and glyphosate and delay the digestate/nitrogen application to manipulate the growth.

I would be interested to find out a bit more about your adapted fert bars. Thanks.

l'ordinary bonville · Aug 23, 2017

Planned as we do normally

Barley straw baled
Pig slurry 30 cubic metres
Sumo
Leave 10 days 2 litres glyphosate
Shallow disc press or just roll
Leave 10 days only if time on our side like this year
Glyphosate vaderstad drill early September
Roll. Twice if dry.
Seed rates 35/sqm
Plants in spring usually less than 20/sqm
Yield usually over 5t

Brisel · Aug 23, 2017

Oat said:
I can understand wanting to leave it until new year to see if actually have a viable crop, but are not limited on your herbicide options by then, and potentially the crop has already suffered from weed competition?
What herbicides would you use- Kerb, Astrokerb, Crawler? and would these clear up most of the weed spectrum you have?

Clomazone pre em because there's nothing else to touch hedge mustard - even Clearfield imazamox isn't perfect. Astrokerb does the other BLW except for charlock which is bifenox + oil + frost. Contact fops (Fusilade fb Falcon) for cereal volunteers. Sorry to answer a question directed at someone else!

Brisel · Aug 23, 2017

@l'ordinary bonville - How much "crop available" N does the 30 m3/ha slurry give you? That sounds quite rich - RB209's standard pig slurry gives 2.2 kg available N/m3 which suggests you're applying 66 kg available N and 90 kg/ha N total. I'm sure you have analysed it and have a much weaker solution!

juke · Aug 23, 2017

Brisel said:
Clomazone pre em because there's nothing else to touch hedge mustard - even Clearfield imazamox isn't perfect. Astrokerb does the other BLW except for charlock which is bifenox + oil + frost. Contact fops (Fusilade fb Falcon) for cereal volunteers. Sorry to answer a question directed at someone else!

Did you decide against companion cropping ?

Zippy768 · Aug 23, 2017

Usually we cultivate and the neighbour drills with his vaddy.
However today father went out to finish the last 14 acres and dropped into see said neighbour. He has a new drill - a no till drill - old man was vague with details "bloody great red and black thing. Big Hooper on a set of wheels and drill on back"

. Anyhow neighbour talked him in to not cultivating the last piece and he will just drill it. Currently, apart from having the tramlines lifted and the headland glypho'd, nothing has been done. Should we be doing anything???
Also do people pre em? Always have done. Left a trial area once and tidied it up in Dec with astrokerb. Any yield difference was negliable. I would have been a bit concerned if all my rape had looked like that tho.

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