Hay bob help :/

butlerx09

Member
Hi we currently have a little pz haybob which does the job turns the hay and spreads it but we have a contractor in to bale it but when he does he rows it up with his machine to make bigger rows for his baler which cost 600 just to row the few fields up so what sort of haybob/Turner or rake should I look to buy to replace mine and put it in big enough rows so I reduce the bill by 600 a year, I know initially I have the cost of a second hand haybob but long term it would surely benefit? Any help or advice thanks
 

sawdust

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Location
Argyll
Hi we currently have a little pz haybob which does the job turns the hay and spreads it but we have a contractor in to bale it but when he does he rows it up with his machine to make bigger rows for his baler which cost 600 just to row the few fields up so what sort of haybob/Turner or rake should I look to buy to replace mine and put it in big enough rows so I reduce the bill by 600 a year, I know initially I have the cost of a second hand haybob but long term it would surely benefit? Any help or advice thanks
Just drill extra holes in the gates to suit width of the baler (y)
 

glasshouse

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Location
lothians
Hi we currently have a little pz haybob which does the job turns the hay and spreads it but we have a contractor in to bale it but when he does he rows it up with his machine to make bigger rows for his baler which cost 600 just to row the few fields up so what sort of haybob/Turner or rake should I look to buy to replace mine and put it in big enough rows so I reduce the bill by 600 a year, I know initially I have the cost of a second hand haybob but long term it would surely benefit? Any help or advice thanks
thats the eternal problem.
try a haybob 380, better than yours but prob not wide enough.
i picked up a well used lely rotonde recently, it gathers 17ft at a time.
 

Mursal

Member
Acrobat for at least 3 years, tell him you bought a new rake, just have it done well in advance.
Just keep going round and round till you think the rows are solid enough for him.
That'll knock the £600 raking out of his head.

Failing that, if he's not happy with the rows from behind the Haybob, adios amigo ..................
 

Goweresque

Member
Location
North Wilts
NAAC rate is £7/acre for raking, and market rates are usually less, so unless you're making 100 acres of hay, you're having your leg yanked pretty hard. What are you being charged for the baling?
 
Would a single rotor rake be enough do I not need a twin rotor rake to make thick enough rows?
We do all ours with the Kuhn single rotor rake, just go round the other way to make 4 mower rows into one for the wider pickup on the modern baler. (The old RP12 had a very narrow mouth and would only take 2 rows)
I should really buy a twin rotor but I have my lovely assistant who enjoys doing the raking with her little B250, and on 200 acres a year, it doesn't really bother us enough to spend out the money.
 

sawdust

Member
Location
Argyll
He should charge you extra for baling behind a haybob. His work rate will be significantly lower.
Why? if the sward is the width to fill the baler, why should he charge more?? IMHO a full width sward with slightly less grass in it will make better bales than a jumbo sward out of a big rake, as the bale layers will be thinner, so it will make a far more dense bale!
 

Dave W

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Location
chesterfield
Why? if the sward is the width to fill the baler, why should he charge more?? IMHO a full width sward with slightly less grass in it will make better bales than a jumbo sward out of a big rake, as the bale layers will be thinner, so it will make a far more dense bale!
Because it will take twice as long to bale if there is 3m in a swath rather than 6+m.
The actual width of the swath isn't the issue here. It's the number of swaths that is the problem
 
Because it will take twice as long to bale if there is 3m in a swath rather than 6+m.
The actual width of the swath isn't the issue here. It's the number of swaths that is the problem
Um , no , if you go up the row, then down the row with a Haybob 360 , you will have about 7m in one swath, it might take twice as long to row up , but make no difference for the baler bloke!(y)
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butlerx09

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He charges about £8 an acre to rake up and £8 per bale Inc wrap, then hay is 4.60 a bale same as straw. But I hire a mower which costs me £100 which isn't bad then I spread it with our little pz haybob it has 2 rotors on then he comes with his bigger rake and has alot let rows. But I think if I can rake it myself I'm saving money which is the main thing :) have thought about a baler but they can be pricey so would a single rake be ok I've seen a couple on eBay for just over 1000 but I assumed a big single rake would do the same area as my little twin rake hence I thought I might need a twin rake but then there alot more money :/
 

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