- Location
- Northumberland
No idea,but i dont think they have got camera recognition and hi-tech in the Ukraine.
Brexit postponed
- Thread starter Walterp
- Start date
- Location
- Limousin/Charentes toad land
Yep he was a good chapI prefer to blame clown farage
If it hadn't been for Tony then I probably wouldn't have got together with my lovely wife
Started brexit you know
I didn't say they did
What happens at the Swiss boarder?
Just drive through . there is border control but nobody is there.
- Location
- Northumberland
As above,genuinely no idea.But no doubt Danllan will be along shortly to educate us.
- Location
- Limousin/Charentes toad land
Yep he was a good chap
Started brexit you know
It must be wonderful to see, years in advance, every consequence of every desision you make?
If I were so clever like you I don't think I would be wasting my time with a few cows and sheep
Well do the ni one like that then
Its not like a boarder has never been done before
What's the big deal
That happened in the pastIt must be wonderful to see, years in advance, every consequence of every desision you make?
If I were so clever like you I don't think I would be wasting my time with a few cows and sheep
- Location
- Limousin/Charentes toad land
Danllan
Member
- Location
- Sir Gar / Carms
No digs on my part, just attempts to find out why the antipathy to the UK and its interests, my guess is that it lies in a combination of individual and perceived national insecurity, what other reasons do you think he has for it? But do you really, honestly thing that he and others aren't acting like angry kiddies? Teddy is out the pram because they can't have their own way, and that's the end of it.
Of course his posts make more sense to you, you think the same way, so why wouldn't they? I can't help it if you won't follow my posts, how simple does it need to be? I'm a democrat first and above all else, there was no way we could be sovereign within the EU, so we couldn't be a democracy or have our democratic wishes respected within the EU (you can ask the Irish about that, they're experts now, from bitter experience). It's raining though, and I like a challenge, so I'll have a go:
1) A democracy is the form of society that the vast majority of people in the UK want
2) EU law takes precedence over any democratic choice made by an EU member-state.
3) We had a democratic referendum regarding whether to remain in or to leave the EU.
4) A majority who voted in that referendum chose to leave the EU.
5) Being a democracy, the democratically expressed will of the majority must be carried out.
6) Therefore Article 50 was invoked, this means we will be leaving the EU.
7) The EU are unhappy about us leaving and are scared that others may too*.
8) The EU want to make leaving it and existence outside of it, difficult for the UK*.
If you think there is a mistake above please let me know and give me some evidence to confirm it. Once we are agreed on the basic facts of the case, I shall proceed
.But I'll admit now, if you do wish to dispute any of the eight above, I think that there will be little point in going further because they are manifest and readily demonstrable truths. It doesn't matter if you or anyone else doesn't like the facts, that's fine, there are lots of facts I and others don't like. But it does matter if you refuse to recognise them as such. If we are able to speak plainly and without avoiding things because they may 'offend' someone, that will be help too.
* To my surprise and to his credit, the BBC's Norman Smith made these points openly directly after TM's speech in Florence - the first time, I believe, that a BBC in-house correspondent has done so.
caveman
Member
- Location
- East Sussex.
I wonder what life will be like in the EU..... say in twenty years time?
Conscription of the kids to face of with the Ruskies for starters?
Even invading with a view to grabbing their untold wealth?
The Germanics and Slavs have been at each other's throats for centuries.
Watch the bankers flood back to a safer haven then......... if they actually go in the first instance.
As usual.
It'll end up with the Brits and Yanks having to supply the sh!t buckets, shovels and jeyes to clear up the mess.
Conscription of the kids to face of with the Ruskies for starters?
Even invading with a view to grabbing their untold wealth?
The Germanics and Slavs have been at each other's throats for centuries.
Watch the bankers flood back to a safer haven then......... if they actually go in the first instance.
As usual.
It'll end up with the Brits and Yanks having to supply the sh!t buckets, shovels and jeyes to clear up the mess.
- Location
- Limousin, France
The demonstration was organised by Jean-Luc Mélenchon, the far left leader who has emerged as the president's principal political opponent.
what do you expect off a donkey? - bar a kick!
It comes a day after Mr Macron signed a new law aimed at making it easier for businesses to hire and fire staff.
wanton dwarf
Member
What you will get in France is the same things the banks have done in the UK.
Expect all the trades to suffer as the doors are flung open to mass immigration, grants given to immigrants and housing for immigrants.
Wages will reduce, working conditions decrease, hours increase and productivity will go down. Whilst the bankers & politicians will make more, have more property and pay less tax.
In about 2 decades you'll be wondering why you were so easily fooled.
Bankers have never been good for workers.
why are you bashing your head no wonder you get things wrong if you keep doing that,This is a waste of a glorious Sunday
you were going on about me being able to see in to the future but all that I mentioned happened in the past, I would think that not even Tony would have thought his and labours actions would result in the eventual reaction but they did, he is widely condemned for his action in Iraq and the consequences that are still happening but he could not foresee that either, I actually wasn't against it at the time with no more benefit of hindsight than he did
now how's your head ?
caveman
Member
- Location
- East Sussex.
No chance for protest in eurolalaland.
What was Junkers proposal the other day?
More or less outlawing anything other than mainstream political parties?
Good luck.
What was Junkers proposal the other day?
More or less outlawing anything other than mainstream political parties?
Good luck.
- Location
- Limousin, France
You don't know a lot about France.
No social security for 5 years, Immigrant housing is frankly a disgrace. No family members to join you for 5 years. Only "grant" they get is French lessons.
Why do you think they are queuing at Calais, your weather?
- Location
- Northumberland
You have gone back to talking about the vote,which was more than a year ago,democracy(you are obviously worried that Brexit will not happen),and sovereignty.What has the EU done to us in the last 45 years or so that has stopped or curtailed our democracy and sovereignty?Which of our democratic wishes have not been respected within the EU?Leave the vote aside(done,dusted,and finished) and answer the points raised;the Irish border question,and why immigrants queued up at Calais?I do not know Ashtree,nor which part of NI or ROI he lives,or what axe he has to grind,but he makes some very valid points.You cannot argue that our own government has wasted millions on IT systems,the most notable in the NHS.Your No.8 is just extremely depressing,and could well be true.No digs on my part, just attempts to find out why the antipathy to the UK and its interests, my guess is that it lies in a combination of individual and perceived national insecurity, what other reasons do you think he has for it? But do you really, honestly thing that he and others aren't acting like angry kiddies? Teddy is out the pram because they can't have their own way, and that's the end of it.
Of course his posts make more sense to you, you think the same way, so why wouldn't they? I can't help it if you won't follow my posts, how simple does it need to be? I'm a democrat first and above all else, there was no way we could be sovereign within the EU, so we couldn't be a democracy or have our democratic wishes respected within the EU (you can ask the Irish about that, they're experts now, from bitter experience). It's raining though, and I like a challenge, so I'll have a go:
1) A democracy is the form of society that the vast majority of people in the UK want
2) EU law takes precedence over any democratic choice made by an EU member-state.
3) We had a democratic referendum regarding whether to remain in or to leave the EU.
4) A majority who voted in that referendum chose to leave the EU.
5) Being a democracy, the democratically expressed will of the majority must be carried out.
6) Therefore Article 50 was invoked, this means we will be leaving the EU.
7) The EU are unhappy about us leaving and are scared that others may too*.
8) The EU want to make leaving it and existence outside of it, difficult for the UK*.
If you think there is a mistake above please let me know and give me some evidence to confirm it. Once we are agreed on the basic facts of the case, I shall proceed
But I'll admit now, if you do wish to dispute any of the eight above, I think that there will be little point in going further because they are manifest and readily demonstrable truths. It doesn't matter if you or anyone else doesn't like the facts, that's fine, there are lots of facts I and others don't like. But it does matter if you refuse to recognise them as such. If we are able to speak plainly and without avoiding things because they may 'offend' someone, that will be help too.
* To my surprise and to his credit, the BBC's Norman Smith made these points openly directly after TM's speech in Florence - the first time, I believe, that a BBC in-house correspondent has done so.
- Location
- East Yorkshire
Is it the UK, or France that's out of step with the rest of Europe?
I think a few years back when we tried to stop benefit payments to immigrants we were taken to the eu court and we lost