Period implements for a Ford 4000

powerontheland · Aug 31, 2016

Wiking said:
How old is your son? I do like the idea of him starting out on a bit of older gear like most of us did when we were kids...

He is only 6 at the moment, plan is for us to refurbish it together and then I will use it as part of my business, maybe a few plough matches etc until he is capable/old enough to drive it himself.

db9go · Aug 31, 2016

cokey1955 said:
Think it was a bamlet not a new Holland

No it was a New Holland as it did not have a Pittman shaft to drive the knife but a belt drive to the knife

Drillman · Aug 31, 2016

John 1594 said:
You been on a valtra now then?

Nah been dealing with a MF combine today.

DeeGee · Aug 31, 2016

db9go said:
No it was a New Holland as it did not have a Pittman shaft to drive the knife but a belt drive to the knife

We had one of those NH finger bar mowers with belt drive; was it a 227 or something like that? Very quiet mower compared to the rod type mowers of that era.

powerontheland · Sep 25, 2017

Finally got her home today. New battery, started first tine from her resting place for the last ten years! Sounds sweet.

DeeGee · Sep 28, 2017

powerontheland said:
View attachment 582182 Finally got her home today. New battery, started first tine from her resting place for the last ten years! Sounds sweet.

Must have been fitted with a Perkins 236 engine then.
Let's be totally honest: no Fords ever sounded sweet did they?

How can the sound of load of rusty spanners being shaken around in a biscuit tin ever be described as 'sweet'?

powerontheland · Sep 28, 2017

DeeGee said:
Must have been fitted with a Perkins 236 engine then.
Let's be totally honest: no Fords ever sounded sweet did they?

How can the sound of load of rusty spanners being shaken around in a biscuit tin ever be described as 'sweet'?

cfr1964 · Sep 28, 2017

DeeGee said:
Must have been fitted with a Perkins 236 engine then.
Let's be totally honest: no Fords ever sounded sweet did they?

How can the sound of load of rusty spanners being shaken around in a biscuit tin ever be described as 'sweet'?

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7610 super q · Sep 28, 2017

cfr1964 said:
Thanks ever so much for your valuable and insightful contribution,it's brand new information that has never been shared before

It's DB John's Welsh cousin......

multi power · Sep 28, 2017

cfr1964 said:
Thanks ever so much for your valuable and insightful contribution,it's brand new information that has never been shared before

But it's all true and accurate

Mursal · Sep 28, 2017

Lads, lads, lads ................

powerontheland · Sep 28, 2017

powerontheland said:
Guys I was after constructive info! Not a bitch fest!

At the risk of repeating myself!!!!!

JLTate · Sep 28, 2017

DeeGee · Sep 28, 2017

There was a Ransomes C79 rigid tine cultivator with either 9 or 11 legs that was often shown behind a 4000 in 1960's leaflets.

We have one here and we still use it for deep cultivations. The wearing points are no longer available but the standard narrow Kongskilde points will fit providing you use longer 70mm saddle bolts.

Doubt these machines would fetch a fortune in a farm sale.

cfr1964 · Sep 28, 2017

DeeGee said:
There was a Ransomes C79 rigid tine cultivator with either 9 or 11 legs that was often shown behind a 4000 in 1960's leaflets.

We have one here and we still use it for deep cultivations. The wearing points are no longer available but the standard narrow Kongskilde points will fit providing you use longer 70mm saddle bolts.

Doubt these machines would fetch a fortune in a farm sale.

Something like this? Only a 5000 in this instance

ransomes-cultivator-c79-series-zed-bar-brochure-8403-p[ekm]726x1000[ekm].jpg

DeeGee · Sep 28, 2017

cfr1964 said:
Something like this? Only a 5000 in this instance View attachment 583314

Yep, that's the one! We have the 9 tine model; very strong well made cultivators.

Eleven tine would be okay for shallower cults, but 9 would be better for the 4000 if you need to go deep.

7610 super q · Sep 28, 2017

Used to use a Twose on ours. Pic pinched off Google. Brackets were the other way round on the one we had. :scratchhead:

DeeGee · Sep 29, 2017

To be honest the 4000 was a very gutsy tractor. Brakes were better than the 165 and the 3 cylinder engine pulled exceptionally well.

My biggest complaint ( from bitter experience) was that yawning gap between sixth and seventh gear that made fast field jobs almost impossible.

This was overcome by the MF Multi Power gearbox that put a 10 mph gear right where Ford should have put their third gear; instead of the ridiculously high seventh gear that was virtually useless for field work.

Also remember that the three pot engine was a lot less refined than either the Massey A4. 212 or 236 motors.

If Ford had really sorted out their gearbox ratios then they would have been far mo e serious competitors to Massey Ferguson.

DeeGee · Sep 29, 2017

I grew up with Fords. We had a 3000 and I drove 4000 and 5000 tractors.
They were good, but I always wanted a Massey Ferguson with Multi Power to give those far more useful gears than the Fords.

Fords were indeed good tractors, but for me Masseys were always better.

Lincsman · Sep 29, 2017

DeeGee said:
To be honest the 4000 was a very gutsy tractor. Brakes were better than the 165 and the 3 cylinder engine pulled exceptionally well.

My biggest complaint ( from bitter experience) was that yawning gap between sixth and seventh gear that made fast field jobs almost impossible.

This was overcome by the MF Multi Power gearbox that put a 10 mph gear right where Ford should have put their third gear; instead of the ridiculously high seventh gear that was virtually useless for field work.

Also remember that the three pot engine was a lot less refined than either the Massey A4. 212 or 236 motors.

If Ford had really sorted out their gearbox ratios then they would have been far mo e serious competitors to Massey Ferguson.

Ford had no problem selling them, in 1973 it was an 18 month wait for a new 4000.

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