Feldspar
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They've learnt how to stack cardboard boxes...
We're all doomed.
I thought the jumping one was pretty impressive. Balance is not an easy thing to master.
They've learnt how to stack cardboard boxes...
We're all doomed.
But they mastered that back in the 70's.......I thought the jumping one was pretty impressive. Balance is not an easy thing to master.
one thing has occurred to me:-
There are a few members on here who can’t wait to replace everything with robots. The same members (well one in particular) have stated that there staff are members on here as well.
Let’s all hope for your sakes that those loyal employees don’t read this thread or you lads could have a revolt on your hands
Half of Staffordshire could be a wasteland for the next 10-20 years till these robots become comercially available
This thread has really irritated me. Agriculture needs to be treated like a professional business, not a romanticised hobby that is considered a god given right.
Some aspects of “swarm robots” I’m struggling to get my head around, although I’m happy to learn !!
Most crop protection products rely on being applied in a timely fashion to achieve the best results, in a typical season with short windows, how does transporting and setting up some knee high minionesque robots on a field by field basis achieve this ??
Same with drilling, I want to drill, say, 400 ha of WW in a 10 day period in the middle of October, 10 days with a 6m drill or months with a swarm of these things ??
All the above can only lead to lost yield ....
I can’t imagine unmanned devices being left to slap on pesticides next to houses and places of work ever being given the green light, too much room for error to ever be allowed in our ever more restrictive legislative world we now live in...
I think these swarms will have some successful niches in say, weeding high value salad or veg crops or targeting BG in a growing crop over a largish time period over winter, but I’m struggling to see how they are a replacement for tractors, sprayers and combines etc.
They may also work on large open plains of the US / Canada, Russia etc, but spread out UK farms with lots of roads and gates etc ??
I can imagine the fun the local towns Yooths could have on Friday night on the way home from the pub, tipping over robots and getting sprayed with Pendamethalin in the process
I often wonder how many of these critics of larger farms have ever worked on a well run and resourced farming business or are just commenting on fiction derived from their imagination ?
Maybe some of these commentators have experienced a badly run estate on their middle year possibly, but I would say there are plenty of badly run smaller farms too, I like to look at farms as being well run or not irrespective of size, big or small....
Wrong, my wording was bad. The industry is professional, most farming companies aren't so end up getting strung up.the fact that farming is being treated like a professional business is why we have this tread.
the fact that the professional business model has seen produce prices drop seems to have been missed by a lot of farmers.
but not by the bankers
Yes.
It seems very odd to be overproducing food now, based on political motives and greed, simply to dump in a landfill because it's expired....
And, producing basic raw foods in expensive ways and then expecting to be making large profits from doing so..?
I don't think that animals and ranching will ever become unnecessary but it seems that farming is always in a hurry to cut it's own throat, (as in post #2) whereas less intensive but more widespread livestock will always be around in some shape or form.
It's how it all began, and I hope they'll be here long after the human race.
Animals and soils go hand in hand.
People and dirt also go hand in hand!!
Farmers can forget about it for now, because they have the fuel, money and often the inclination to not see the wood for the trees; it seems Europe is leading the race to the bottom in that respect?
There's a big "rest of the world" and they're coming to a store near you!
When the next/current generation can't afford their various electronic devices, when welfare just runs out of money, when theres no jobs at McDs or KFC, when parents/grandparents tell the current generation, sorry, no subs left, when in reality, real poverty starts hitting the West?
as ive said before i used to go to sales in the east to buy my farm machinery they were crumbs off the rich mens tables unfortunately there crumbs are too big for me nowif i had a six straw walker combine it would not fit up the road besides the header trailer would not be able to turn off the road so we are limited , big is not always beautiful ,we are a bit like Drakes little ships we have to dart in and do what we can when we can what between the weather windows and the five acre fields we are hampered i was chatting to a man on his holls he was a farm manager from England he saw a field of barley no more than five acres in the middle of nowhere miles from another field of barley he could not believe someone would go there to cut it i cant imagine an army of robots gong down the road to do it in the future all this talk of robotics just baffles me i am a farmer i enjoy my work i struggle with electrics and don't like the office to sit in the office and control robots like some computer game does not appeal to meThis is one of the interesting things about the forum, you realise that there are in fact a wide spectrum of "modern" farms all doing their thing with equipment ranging from 1950-2017 and everything in between. In the west, there must be tens of thousands of these old tractors still doing a day's work on livestock farms yet they sneak under the radar as they don't feature each week in Farmers' Weekly. 100 acres with a 135 is just as valid a part of our industry as 1000 acres with a Quadtrac, neither is more or less relevant than the other.
So half the country will embrace robots (as it were, ooh-er missus) the other half will keep pottering along albeit with the discarded big kit no longer needed on the big farms and available at bargain price.
nice outfit not autoreset ?2wd doesnt matter the front wheels wont have any traction when she is pullingYes, I didn't like to mention I still use a 100 hp tractor, and 4 furrow plough........and ummmm...errrrrr 2wd.
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as ive said before i used to go to sales in the east to buy my farm machinery they were crumbs off the rich mens tables unfortunately there crumbs are too big for me nowif i had a six straw walker combine it would not fit up the road besides the header trailer would not be able to turn off the road so we are limited , big is not always beautiful ,we are a bit like Drakes little ships we have to dart in and do what we can when we can what between the weather windows and the five acre fields we are hampered i was chatting to a man on his holls he was a farm manager from England he saw a field of barley no more than five acres in the middle of nowhere miles from another field of barley he could not believe someone would go there to cut it i cant imagine an army of robots gong down the road to do it in the future all this talk of robotics just baffles me i am a farmer i enjoy my work i struggle with electrics and don't like the office to sit in the office and control robots like some computer game does not appeal to me
A rare sunny day in crapweathershire i assume?Yes, I didn't like to mention I still use a 100 hp tractor, and 4 furrow plough........and ummmm...errrrrr 2wd.
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IT is the worst thing ever invented.I remember when our small town got a grant from the EU for IT.
Some of the money was spent on a computer terminal at the railway station where you could select a destination and it would tell you the train times. Nobody could think how else to spend the money but it had to spent "or we'd lose it."
There are only 2 destinations served by our station and only 5 trains per day. All of the necessary information was clearly displayed on an old fashioned notice board next to the terminal and could be viewed in an instant, whereas you had to work through menus in the terminal to tell you the bleedin obvious. It wasn't long before the terminal stopped working, as it was probably mistaken for a urinal, but it still proudly sports a plaque which reads something like "this equipment was funded by the European Union." A very fitting monument to the folly of over indulgence in IT and technology which will still be there, not working, like some kind of tombstone to our EU membership long after Brexit.
What is ?IT is the worst thing ever invented.
Impressive to say the least. Now send it out to the back 40 to check the gender of that new Angus calf put an ear tag in or whatever else While mama is watching
Some of this stuff is moving very fast (literally).
Impressive to say the least. Now send it out to the back 40 to check the gender of that new Angus calf put an ear tag in or whatever else While mama is watching