kV tl spreader

KB6930

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Borders
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thanks for that, take it there's a chart to look up then to reference spread width gearbox speed and material quality, on the older ones you have that 4 section box that you fill and shake then read off the results and set the drop point accordingly, which can be the weak link in the system, does the new system do away with that?
No it's still the same system you still need to establish a letter to set the spread width then the section control works from there

I always run across the trays with a new fert and the results from the shaker box and online charts aren't usually far away but definitely not always right
 

Farma Parma

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Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
Yes, take a sample in the shaker, and weight a litre then put it into the screen. Or you can use the app and it will give you all the settings for the older machines.

I was advised not to use the autoset app in the tellus box but to input settings manually
It may have been sorted that by now but dunno.
I do use the iphone app tho & thats really usefull.
You can set it with the thick fert book that comes with it also
I always run the pto at the same speed regardless of product or on headlands, the border limiter takes care of the headlands anyways
 

homefarm

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N.West
Two years ago we bought a Kuhn axis 40.2w with a trimble 750 box doing section control and steering on the tractor.
The spreader worked great section control as well but auto on/off was tricky to get right.
Knowledge transfer between Kuhn dealer and us was the problem, not that it does not work. We have had actuator issues as well and again we were not impressed with Kuhn's response to the problem.
The spreader was damaged in a fire and written off so we have replaced it with a KV cl like phil p's so we hope we like it as much as him.
Came last week and been fitted to two tractors, loom on each, unplug screen and antenna and move them to other tractor. Both tractors are saved in box, tick which one and away we go. Could have used trimble for gps but decided no after last time.
 
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Phil P

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Arable Farmer
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North West
I was advised not to use the autoset app in the tellus box but to input settings manually
It may have been sorted that by now but dunno.
I do use the iphone app tho & thats really usefull.
You can set it with the thick fert book that comes with it also
I always run the pto at the same speed regardless of product or on headlands, the border limiter takes care of the headlands anyways
To be honest we always keep with the same rpm on the headlands and just use the border limiter, it’s more for spreading along brooks etc they recommend dropping the rpm, we’re in a nvz so have to be a little bit careful on occasion :rolleyes:.
We always put the first bag over the trays even if it’s supposed to be the same stuff as the previous year. Been very happy with the box setup though, up now we’ve not really had to make any adjustments from what the tellus has recommended.
Got some mop to spread as soon as it drys up that should have gone on in the back end of last year but never been fit! won’t be for another few weeks with this weather either:(
 

Farma Parma

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Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
To be honest we always keep with the same rpm on the headlands and just use the border limiter, it’s more for spreading along brooks etc they recommend dropping the rpm, we’re in a nvz so have to be a little bit careful on occasion :rolleyes:.
We always put the first bag over the trays even if it’s supposed to be the same stuff as the previous year. Been very happy with the box setup though, up now we’ve not really had to make any adjustments from what the tellus has recommended.
Got some mop to spread as soon as it drys up that should have gone on in the back end of last year but never been fit! won’t be for another few weeks with this weather either:(
well i dont do the MOP in the backend because with the amount of rain we seem to get over the winter it will leech away
did all my TSP tho on winter sown crops. as it struggles to move in the soil.
iam also in part of NVZ but where the arable block is ive no real water issues.
 

Phil P

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Arable Farmer
Location
North West
well i dont do the MOP in the backend because with the amount of rain we seem to get over the winter it will leech away
did all my TSP tho on winter sown crops. as it struggles to move in the soil.
iam also in part of NVZ but where the arable block is ive no real water issues.
Sorry meant TSP not MOP:banghead::LOL:
 

Phil P

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Arable Farmer
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North West
i knew i was doing the right thing heheee
Most years i struggle to get any on in the backend but this year it stayed dry right into mid nov.
I’m sure we’ve had the TSP/MOP conversation before on another thread:scratchhead: think I got them the wrong way round then as well :ROFLMAO:.
To be fair this will be our first proper full year using straights so still getting my head round it a bit, we usually just go on with flat rate p&k as soon as possible in spring but it’s all changed with the variable rate job.
Will possibly be trying a bit of vr N as well using the Rhiza satellite imagery :nailbiting:
 

Farma Parma

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Arable Farmer
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Northumberlandia
I’m sure we’ve had the TSP/MOP conversation before on another thread:scratchhead: think I got them the wrong way round then as well :ROFLMAO:.
To be fair this will be our first proper full year using straights so still getting my head round it a bit, we usually just go on with flat rate p&k as soon as possible in spring but it’s all changed with the variable rate job.
Will possibly be trying a bit of vr N as well using the Rhiza satellite imagery :nailbiting:
ive not got that far into vari rate to consider N job yet.
Vari Rate is fine in principle
as to wither it saves any fert the jury is out on that one.
Its going where it needs to be i guess.
resampling 2/3 of the place here again this backend so we will see where things are properly by then.
Got some Vari Rate Calcifert to do this spring but thats easy enuff
 

Farma Parma

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Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
Boxes, boxes and more boxes, popped in here to see what the latest chat was on the tl spreader, currently run one of the older weigh cell jobs through a focus2 box, it needed a pcb upgrade a while back and now has all the geospread icons on screen so had a look at @Phil P pictures.
My question is that black wedge spread width is reading 12 m., but the gearbox speed is only 805 rpm which seems low, are the two linked now and do you have to constantly change revs to get geospread accuracy?
i agree the 805rpm does seem low? maybes he shut the revs off at the ends ?
altho it looks like that pic is taken in mid spread?
the 12m width is how your viewing the lower screen. its deffo spreading it at 24m look at the width
in the top half of the screen. in machine settings.
The lower one is just the poss viewing point as from above i think
you can have it lesser or more.
 

Phil P

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Arable Farmer
Location
North West
i agree the 805rpm does seem low? maybes he shut the revs off at the ends ?
altho it looks like that pic is taken in mid spread?
the 12m width is how your viewing the lower screen. its deffo spreading it at 24m look at the width
in the top half of the screen. in machine settings.
The lower one is just the poss viewing point as from above i think
you can have it lesser or more.
If I remember right I stopped to take a couple of pics:whistle: that could explain the rpm;)
This was the pic outside the cab so I’m guessing I’d knocked the revs off(y)
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Dman2

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Durham, UK
As said earlier, my tractor is in getting the harness fitted for the Vicon Geo something or other
I am also getting a second harness fitted to our other tractor which has narrower wheels for spring work.
Can the box be set so that it holds all the relevant info for each tractor?
 

KB6930

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Borders
As said earlier, my tractor is in getting the harness fitted for the Vicon Geo something or other
I am also getting a second harness fitted to our other tractor which has narrower wheels for spring work.
Can the box be set so that it holds all the relevant info for each tractor?
You shouldn't need anything different for other tractors unless you're changing the distance from the front lecture spreader to the GPS receiver

I used mine on 3 different tractors last year and I just put my receiver in more or less the same place and never change anything in the box
 

Phil P

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Arable Farmer
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North West
As said earlier, my tractor is in getting the harness fitted for the Vicon Geo something or other
I am also getting a second harness fitted to our other tractor which has narrower wheels for spring work.
Can the box be set so that it holds all the relevant info for each tractor?
Not to sure what you would need to alter really, gps source maybe if your taking it from the tractor?
All the spreader setting are actually on the spreader its self if that makes sense, that's why you can plug an iso implement into a tractor and use any iso display. So in theory you could program it with one screen then plug it into another and still have the same settings.
Think that's right anyway:scratchhead:
 

Dman2

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Location
Durham, UK
Not to sure what you would need to alter really, gps source maybe if your taking it from the tractor?
All the spreader setting are actually on the spreader its self if that makes sense, that's why you can plug an iso implement into a tractor and use any iso display. So in theory you could program it with one screen then plug it into another and still have the same settings.
Think that's right anyway:scratchhead:
I dont have gps on the tractors
I will be using the gps that comes with the spreader package
Apparently the receiver has to be in the same position on each tractor, or settings need to be altered
I could be wrong though
Will find out when i collect the tractor and spreader on Wednesday
 

Phil P

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Arable Farmer
Location
North West
I dont have gps on the tractors
I will be using the gps that comes with the spreader package
Apparently the receiver has to be in the same position on each tractor, or settings need to be altered
I could be wrong though
Will find out when i collect the tractor and spreader on Wednesday
It just needs to know how far from the spreader the receiver is for switching on/off (doesn’t matter to a couple of cm really) so as long as both mounting points are about the same distance from the hook ends shouldn’t need to alter anything. (y)
 

Dman2

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Durham, UK
It just needs to know how far from the spreader the receiver is for switching on/off (doesn’t matter to a couple of cm really) so as long as both mounting points are about the same distance from the hook ends shouldn’t need to alter anything. (y)
a massey and a Claas
So not sure where the mountings plates will be in relation to hook ends
 

Phil P

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Arable Farmer
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North West
a massey and a Claas
So not sure where the mountings plates will be in relation to hook ends
It’s surprising it doesn’t tend to alter much from one make to another unless you’re comparing a 90hp tractor to a 300hp tractor.
Pretty sure it’s no big issue to alter the settings though, not like you’ll need a laptop.
 

homefarm

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N.West
When they set ours up last week they entered the measurements for both tractors height wheelbase etc. and saved them in tellus box.
When we swop we just the select other tractor and off we go, but will I remember just where that is in the menu in the box is a different matter.
 

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