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Community councils love objecting ?
Building a house
- Thread starter Bossfarmer
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- Portsmouth
Is this true? If you can prove a building was once a house you don't need planning? How far back can you go with this?
These can still be ag-tied.
Are you sure? Part Q does not have to be for ag use. All the ones that I have seen for sale with Part Q have no tie.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/...agricultural-buildings-to-dwellinghouses/made
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/...agricultural-buildings-to-dwellinghouses/made
Their opinion means jack
suffolksmallholder
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@Bossfarmer
Look at all the RIBA shortlists for House-Of-The-Year. You'll get an idea of what the planners would like to see. Put your money where your mouth is & build something pleasant to look at. It doesn't have to be huge, it doesn't have to cost loads-a-money. It just has to look pleasant & blend into the scenery or be 'interesting'. Simples.
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Look at all the RIBA shortlists for House-Of-The-Year. You'll get an idea of what the planners would like to see. Put your money where your mouth is & build something pleasant to look at. It doesn't have to be huge, it doesn't have to cost loads-a-money. It just has to look pleasant & blend into the scenery or be 'interesting'. Simples.
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No but if u can prove it was then it gets you outline planning really easy
The easiest way in rural Scotland is to grab a kit design and take it to the planners. They will visit the farm and if open minded they like if you show them 3 potential plots and ask what one they prefer from a planning point of view.
Don’t go 2 story go 1 1/2 or 1 3/4 ad this is a major obstacle.
Be ready to plan some native trees to soften it too. This was what got mine through.
Took me 1 year from starting to get planning with Tie.
It was greenfield site tho so no old ruins. Like I said before if you have a ruin of some sort then it helps but remember if no tie you are uphill as it’s no different to selling a plot to anyone. If you have to go with a tie then it will have to be in the farms name not yours and paid by the farm so that will be difficult in your situation.
Also avoid renovating a current building as vat will have to be paid. Better to demolish and start fresh from a financial point.
Other option is you sell yours and buy the current farmhouse then parents build one with a tie to the farm then problem solved to an extent
Don’t go 2 story go 1 1/2 or 1 3/4 ad this is a major obstacle.
Be ready to plan some native trees to soften it too. This was what got mine through.
Took me 1 year from starting to get planning with Tie.
It was greenfield site tho so no old ruins. Like I said before if you have a ruin of some sort then it helps but remember if no tie you are uphill as it’s no different to selling a plot to anyone. If you have to go with a tie then it will have to be in the farms name not yours and paid by the farm so that will be difficult in your situation.
Also avoid renovating a current building as vat will have to be paid. Better to demolish and start fresh from a financial point.
Other option is you sell yours and buy the current farmhouse then parents build one with a tie to the farm then problem solved to an extent
top char
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At the early stages of plans for a house at my farm as well. Current farmhouse isn't worth doing up, so my thinking is to flatten it and start again. What advice would yous give regarding getting a mortgage towards a self build in this situation, and whats best route with planning?
It Depends if you are going to transfer ownership of the current house from the business to you or someone else? And what age you are?
With planning you should be pretty good. Makes it easier to get if you use same footprint or at least some of it so dont move the house too much. If speed is an issue then keep exterior walls of old one and apply for extension but you will not get so much VAT back if you do this
top char
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That information would be handy right enough! It is for myself to live in, early 30's, i have bought the house from an uncle, i'm a partner in the farm with my father but i earn a steady wage outwith, so i was hoping to do it on a personal basis. No-one currently stays on farm as this is the only house,so i was hoping that would help my case if there was to be any issues.
If u own it outright as it stands then look at a self build loan where money is released as each stage is completed. Sounds like you will have no problems. Find a kit house company you like and they may do the planning for you. Architects will cost you far more than a kit but you may want something a bit different.
Donkey Oaty
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- Aberdeenshire
Mine doesn't.
suffolksmallholder
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- Suffolk
This co used to be a specialist in the kit design & getting to difficult sites during the 1970's They may be able to offer some advice. http://www.speyroc.com/
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d williams
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Transfer if they put a ag tie on to the original farm house I know of a farmer moved it twice
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- South Wales UK
Think they tried that around here and planners said maybe in history but not in recent times and rejected ?
Yes I am, mine that we are doing is ag-tied. But it is in the middle of a working yard, and not in a redundant complex, and would thus not really be very saleable away anyhow. Since we shall live in it when completed, I see no problem really.
can't see that being too hard really, 1 house but 2 families makes it reasonable to ask for a second, the acreage is enough to support 2 families
avoiding a tie might be hard but why does it matter if you are intending to live in it ?
getting a tie lifted is possible so I would probably not argue about it and think about getting it lifted down the line if I ever wanted to sell