- Location
- Lincolnshire
A product called Spryte Aqua very good sticker, spreader, water conditioner made by Steve Townsend’s company used quite a lot in the past certainly quicker kill therefore pushed cultivation’s more with it than standard AS
Making glyphosate work faster
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mikep
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- Arse end of Surrey, UK
Put some nice Lidl's vinegar in the tank. I use one litre (35p) per 500 of water makes quite a difference especially on blw.
- Location
- Bedfordshire
I thought the same, claydon drilled barley was breaking the surface after four days where a little shallow, second morning up at four thirty to get pre em on as it has glyphosate in the mix
- Location
- Lincolnshire
A couple of litres of liquid 30% N liquid fert in the 2000 litre tank. Seems to acidify it. Grass weeds look very dead but rosebay willow herb doesn't. But I only used 2.5 litres glyphosate.
Vinegar also works on moss in your lawn. You can see the moss getting bleached within minutes.
PS. it does make you garden smell a bit for a while
ollie989898
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Not when I used it. The grass/lawn was unaffected
ollie989898
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mikep
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- Location
- Arse end of Surrey, UK
Whilst we are on the subject (sort of) had anyone had problems with the glyphosate brand Ardee XL? May as well have pee'd on the weeds and I have had to go round all the fields again with another brand (plus vinegar this time).
ollie989898
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No more tallow... you will see this again and again. Ive seen it about several times now. The more you push the margins with glyphosate the more likely it will happen. And I believe it will be this that finally gives us glyphosate resistance in the UK.
As @ollie989898 says the loss of tallow from the formulations has reduced the performance of the generics markedly (not sure about Roundup branded formulations). Li700 in every tank for me now.
mikep
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- Location
- Arse end of Surrey, UK
That explains the weired pattern as some bits were affected more than others. The best control was from hot day application and worse from early morning. Maybe up the vinegar a bit
- Location
- Essex
Used Gallup XL @ 2L/H + Firebrand @.5 applied as a fine spray in 200l of water On some ploughed land a month ago. dry but cold and we observed a mixed kill. Volunteer wheat plant still green while blackgrass next to it destroyed and visa versa. Resprayed before drilling and then another litre applied with pre em. Remaining ground sprayed a week ago with Gallup XL 360@ 3l/h +.5 l/h Firebrand and another litre applied pre em. Early indications seem to suggest a better job.
Spoke to Barclay guy and the batch of Gallup that we had has passed its Corona physical Ie all the constituents that should be in it are present and in the right quantity. I can have it tested independently if I want and they will pay for it. Will give it a week and see what kill we get.
Several people in this area are reporting the same problems with this particular product.
Agronomists are saying lack of tallow doesn't help.
Cold weather and poor growth probably a factor.
In future will use a min of 3l/h and stick in LI700 or Spraymack and drop Firebrand.
Heyho you live and learn!
ollie989898
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To be fair it does say efficacy is compromised by poor growing conditions.
- Location
- Essex
Yes fair enough your point about skimping on rates is a good one. shall be more robust in future especially early in the spring
mikep
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- Location
- Arse end of Surrey, UK
I think that I will go onto 'Touchdown' as it is a better product that will probably be cheaper in the end.
ollie989898
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Half rate is normally adequate for small stubble cleaning, volunteers etc but not hugely tillered out monsters as tall as your wellies.
mikep
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- Location
- Arse end of Surrey, UK
I think looking at it it was a double whammy. The season was very cold and late and the BG was more advanced than it looked.