whos selling wool to the irish , ?
- Thread starter andybk
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- Dumfries & Galloway
Why would the wool board shout for it?
They sell it on your behalf... they don't buy it off you to make money from it (unlike the Irish)
muleman
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supply and demand,if its not worth anything to them the supply should maaybe be tightened, a few years ago we sent them 700 swale,100 mule and 50 bfl fleeces and got about £38. if we`d just sent the mule and bfl wudda got more than that prob
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
The wool is worth nothing to them anyway (except what they take for selling it on your behalf - same as the comission auctioneers take for selling your lambs)...
Yes it'll create a supply shortage but don't confuse the global price of wool with the BWMB.
Actually I'm going to split hairs here.
Auctioneers do not sell lambs for you.
They buy them off you.
- Location
- East Sussex
The BFL fleeces have always had a relatively high value as have the Mules, admittedly Swaledale have been very low due to the amount of black in them. I believe that if you sent wool to the BWMB for the first time and it was collected from you that the £38.00 would have been the roughly 15% advance payment less the transport cost.
As has been pointed out the BWMB doesn't buy the wool, it sells it for you at public auction.
While not knowing which year you are referring to it is likely that the actual wool cheque you would have received after it was sold would have been around £1,000 on a back of fag packet calculation depending on the grading and what year you are referring to at the lowest possible value.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
No they don’t. They broker a deal between buyers and sellers, then charge a commission on doing that to cover handling etc, as well as collecting various levies. They then pay the seller once they know what the lambs have been sold for.
In that respect the BWMB do just the same, they just take longer to sell it, spreading auctions over the year to level supply.
Every time I take my lambs to a market, I have no idea what they will make. I know what I hope they’ll make, but nobody knows until they are actually sold.
Smallfarmer1
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Only 50c/kg in ireland......
sheepwise
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- Location
- SW Scotland
Is the issue here not more with the quality of swale wool than the service from BWMB. It's the same with the blackies now, full of black fibres and kemp probably from the use of swale blood.Good clean types are a rarity nowadays because the breeders aren't interested due to the low value of the product.
@andybk I've been the same as you in previous years, taking mine down to South Molton which barely covered the cost of the diesel. I know Harraways at Congresbury take receipt of it and will be dropping mine with them this year. Even with a deduction for their transport cost it still works out more cost effective to do that than be out of pocket from the best part of a long morning spent driving to South Molton.
The Contracter
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- Location
- Gairloch
Texacloth are a nicer firm to deal with, it’s a small family business run by the sons now. Very good ethic on maximising the price of wool for the farmers.
The Contracter
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- Location
- Gairloch
Texacloth is a family business Mr Langrish. It is not owed by anyone out side of the Walsh family. I know Alan Walsh well. Very nice approachable lad. Also over the last 6 years they have not been beaten on price by the board or Curtis wool direct (which is the other so called Irish firm). I have learned a bit about the wool dealing with Texacloth and how the world market is manly the Chinese, also the uk wool makes up less than 5% of it. Nz have a stock pile of cross wool at the moment. You would think Frank after being involved with the BWMB for so long you would know that by now.
Also the small upfront payment you receive off the board is 25% of your over all payment not 15%. If wool rises through the winter you will get a higher second payment. With Texacloth you have already had a full payment and the wool rises for the next year so does the payment for your wool the next year, and you get 100%.
No body at Texacloth gets paid over 100k a year, the board pay more than one or two that wage. Texacloth are paying as high as 85p per kg this year depending on your wool.
The Contracter
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- Location
- Gairloch
Big wages to pay. If they drop under their target this season (hard winter, Less wool and sheep) they cannot pay all the wages and all the farmers.
My problem with them is paying big money to a selected few Big farmers and not looking after everyone as they are meant to.
The Contracter
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- Location
- Gairloch
Texacloth are paying up 85p for Romney’s
60p for mules
65p for tex/Lleyn
Board was saying 90p for Tex/Lleyn but has admitted it will be only 64p (that will be a top grade as well probably). Farmers had to wait 12 months to find out there wool will be 26p per kg less.
This has been the same for 6 years.
The Contracter
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- Location
- Gairloch
This says it all. For 6 years now high prices quoted to keep people into not knowing what they will get!!
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The Contracter
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- Location
- Gairloch
Texacloth don’t and have never sold wool to the board. Other way around, they buy it in the auction for customers.
The Contracter
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- Location
- Gairloch
Texacloth are paying 65p and up to 85p
The Contracter
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- Location
- Gairloch
More lies from a board member (who needs to keep his salary related pension) that right Mr Langrish?
I know that. I meen the guy that is the agent for Texacloth in our area still sends some wool to the wool board. The Irish aren't thick are they! Instead of going to the auctions to buy wool they go straight to the farmer. And do you seriously think that they do it for the farmers benefit!?
It is the best thing that has happened to the wool industry that there is competition. The wool board has had to up there game and lower there pensions.