Automatic elec Master drier output

MrNoo · Aug 15, 2018

Does anyone run one of these?? My 50 year old Blanch drier is nearly at the end of it's life and thinking about a mobile drier, just wondering what the output of say a 12t or 14t mobile would be taking 3% out say on WW, I know it would depend on size of wet storage area as to how long it would run for but realistically what sort of output would I get for a days drying, say start at 8 and turn off at 11 or 12. Not sure I would be able to run through the night as have residents near by.
Also is there any advantage to going up in size ie 20t batch. I use 14t trailers so would assume this would have a bearing on size.
Just trying to get some ideas for a new shed build.

Tim G · Aug 15, 2018

Well I work for Masters so I'll put that hat on........
Cycle time will depend on a number of conditions, feed wheat or seed, how you load, how long you want to cool for etc. but you are probably looking at 2.5 hours. The smaller range come as 12,16 or 20t. (Assuming you want 'of the shelf' retractable type) or step up to the larger range 20t model and you get a bigger fan and burner, higher capacity filling auger etc.
If you want full automation you will probably be looking new as not many secind hand yet.
I often think a well set up (as in system) small dryer will out perform a bigger dryer just set in the barn so to speak but really depends on your infrastructure and budget. If you need to see one there are plenty about in fact i took one out your way a few weeks ago. Also have loads of pictures of set ups to give ideas if that helps.
Best to call Garry on 01787 228450 and tell him Tim sent you.

Boysground · Aug 15, 2018

Have a 20t master and 12t opico. For both we usually work on about a 2 hour cycle time it will increase with moisture. When you buy 1 get the biggest master you can afford/ fit in you space. It is so much easier doing less bigger batches. The backup from master is very good.

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Barneydog · Aug 18, 2018

If you have 14t trailers minimum size will be 15t drier. Go for electric drive which can then be automated, couple this with a wet holding bin that can be filled with a bucket and feed directly into the drier intake emptying into the shed. As TimG says this type of setup will improve your throughput cheaper than going for a larger batch size.
I know you are looking at master driers but it wouldn't hurt to speak to the guys at Mecmar for some ideas. Have found them very helpful.

Fergieman · Aug 19, 2018

We have a 25T Mecmar and it fills a 13T trailer twice to empty it, but as said above try and have it with a bin to fill and empty straight into a shed which will increase cycle times alot.
I don't know if a 12T will be more efficient than a 20/25t on an automatic cycle system. @Tim G any ideas on that one?

Steevo · Aug 19, 2018

Or have a concrete bunker in and bunker out.
Telehandler with a 5t bucket. Shifted in no time to whichever shed you need, pushed up. Can also tip wet grain in other sheds and bring round to dryer with bucket for drying on non-combining days.

Saves a lot of jumping in and out of loader, tractor etc.

Tim G · Aug 19, 2018

Fergieman said:
I don't know if a 12T will be more efficient than a 20/25t on an automatic cycle system. @Tim G any ideas on that one?

In terms of fuel use they would be similar, we work on 1 litre of fuel to take 1% out of 1 ton. So 60 litres to dry 12t by 5% as a guide. In terms of electric use to drive then yes a bigger drier will have the edge. With the bigger driers to get the best out of them on automatic cycles you really need a trench conveyor set up to keep them full, bins usually aren't big enough.

Hampton · Aug 19, 2018

MrNoo said:
Does anyone run one of these?? My 50 year old Blanch drier is nearly at the end of it's life and thinking about a mobile drier, just wondering what the output of say a 12t or 14t mobile would be taking 3% out say on WW, I know it would depend on size of wet storage area as to how long it would run for but realistically what sort of output would I get for a days drying, say start at 8 and turn off at 11 or 12. Not sure I would be able to run through the night as have residents near by.
Also is there any advantage to going up in size ie 20t batch. I use 14t trailers so would assume this would have a bearing on size.
Just trying to get some ideas for a new shed build.

Worth ringing Edwards and farmer. Very knowledgeable, nothing they don't know or can't fix quickly, and often have a good selection of secondhand as well as new.

quattro · Aug 20, 2018

Tim G said:
In terms of fuel use they would be similar, we work on 1 litre of fuel to take 1% out of 1 ton. So 60 litres to dry 12t by 5% as a guide. In terms of electric use to drive then yes a bigger drier will have the edge. With the bigger driers to get the best out of them on automatic cycles you really need a trench conveyor set up to keep them full, bins usually aren't big enough.

Have you any pics of a trench conveyor type hopper?

Tim G · Aug 20, 2018

Couple of examples for you @quattro

DieselRob · Aug 20, 2018

I have a 12t Opico fully automatic, batch time is usually between 90 mins and 2hrs to do 3% depending on how much cooling you want to do. Mine is fed by a 15t bin that I load with the telehandler, as others have said a trench conveyor is the dogs doodahs but at a cost, my drier empties in to a bunker within the shed. Nice simple system

Steevo · Aug 20, 2018

DieselRob said:
I have a 12t Opico fully automatic, batch time is usually between 90 mins and 2hrs to do 3% depending on how much cooling you want to do. Mine is fed by a 15t bin that I load with the telehandler, as others have said a trench conveyor is the dogs doodahs but at a cost, my drier empties in to a bunker within the shed. Nice simple system View attachment 707328 View attachment 707332

Nice shed! I wonder who built that...!

Tim G · Aug 21, 2018

Here is an alternative, double length filling hopper with a slope concreted up to it, so creating a bunker. No bin or trench conveyor needed.

DieselRob · Aug 21, 2018

Steevo said:
Nice shed! I wonder who built that...!

Still got that discharge auger making grain flow uphill as well, I think it was you who commented on it on another thread [emoji23]

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