Sop rules

Ley253

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Nice defence there Harry, by your own standards any handling is not to be tolerated, but in this case you defend the indefensible ?

Add to that use of family labour to harvest straw off the plot and you may see where some commentators are coming from
Were you at Llangatok by any chance? family was clearing Alwyns plot as well! Even managed a few handfuls from mine too!
cant polish a turd? Well in fact you can, bake it in the oven, sand and polish! Seriously though, in my class, I have seen starts totally constructed by hand, from a pile of broken lumps of dirt. Perhaps its the larger furrows that lend themselves to this operation, its certain that we have some of the best, they would be quite good at walling, and I wish they would find that more interesting than ploughing!
When ever I complain to DC about his hand work, out comes the "When in Rome" mantra, well he was not in Rome down here and credit has to be given where due, his hands stayed off the ploughing, and at Llangatok, he had plenty of reason to get them dirty, pulling wet straw and grass out of the work, he didnt, and the person who did was most upset to finish second!
 

Mydexta

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I wanted to know is if these tails are allowed or not
 

Ley253

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Bath
What happened today Harry? I saw you drive out and load up and go, did you break something?
Thanks for your concern, but the only thing damaged was my heart! Nice land, and a decent plot, could have sorted out lots of things, but God was so upset at this that he started crying, and turned the soil into glue! Its one snag with my land wheels that they do choke up in sticky conditions, and they excelled themselves! Couldnt go half the length of the plot without stopping and clearing out the plough!
Did manage to get the basics of a good start worked out so not a complete waste of time.
 

Ley253

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Location
Bath
The rule is, like so many badly worded. Fin must be flat, with a non adjustable mounting. However, as long as the fin is flat, the mounting can be any shape you like, and so its legal for crown flattening fins, with right angle mountings to be used. Therefore, you could have as many fins as you like with different mountings for specific jobs.
 

Howard150

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Yorkshire
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This is what I can find out from the most recently revised rules

Nothing about flat fins or adjustable mountings?????

Sneaky bit in there now about skimmers and tailpieces being optional. Always used to say ‘skimmers must be used’

In the spirit of ‘as manufactured’ then the rules as written allow what you have there Euan, simply because it’s exactly as you made it, and no more of a 2 piece than the originals - possibly a bit of what they tell you is not what they actually mean. What the main man always told me was that you could have nothing more than was originally fitted to a TS86, always managed with them.

Far too many rules anyway. The rules don’t always level the playing field and in many cases were petitioned for or brought in to either allow somebody an advantage or stop the more inventive ploughmen winning. That’s why we see Kverneland discs and skimmers on vintage ploughs that should have been in production before 1960. Would think the KV discs in question were much closer to 1970.

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Ley253

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Bath
Am I the only one who is moving to the belief that the constant unannounced minor rule changes are a ploy to make the purchase of a new copy of the rule book every year more attractive?
 

arcobob

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Norfolk
Am I the only one who is moving to the belief that the constant unannounced minor rule changes are a ploy to make the purchase of a new copy of the rule book every year more attractive?
I think there is an element of truth in that and also to increase the perceived importance of the SOP. It may result in more organisers and societies reverting to their own rules which is a very bad thing. It makes you wonder if an alternative standard set of rules could be written and widely circulated by a rival organisation after wide consultation or simply campaign for a European or world standard where rules are readily available on line..
 

Ley253

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Bath
Main problem is the SOP, for whatever reasons wish to control match ploughing, but without taking any responsibility.They have in effect no power to impose any of their ideas, those that are are accepted by consent! We need a governing body not a talking shop, at a stroke, such a body would give stewards protection, ensure one set of rules, and impose penalties for transgressions. How to attain this, is a thorny question, but, if SOP membership was to be a requirement to compete in any match run by an affiliated body, that would be a start. Membership could evolve into a licence system, the loss of such a licence should give the regular rule "Adjusters" food for thought!
 

arcobob

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Norfolk
How to attain this, is a thorny question, but, if SOP membership was to be a requirement to compete in any match run by an affiliated body, that would be a start.
That would indeed be a start, the beginning to accelerating the end. The SOP have had their day and their credibility is shot. People will give up ploughing in droves. Affiliated club numbers will fall and a free for all will ensue.
 

arcobob

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Norfolk
I thought the title of the thread was SOP rules. Where is the problem ? If you do not like the development of the thread in more general terms you should entitle it "My Tail Pieces" and see what develops from there:ROFLMAO:
 

Ley253

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Bath
That would indeed be a start, the beginning to accelerating the end. The SOP have had their day and their credibility is shot. People will give up ploughing in droves. Affiliated club numbers will fall and a free for all will ensue.
The SOP seems to be doing better than the alternative, and around here at least, the feeling is," Its not perfect, but it is improving"
People will not give up ploughing in droves, were that the overall feeling it would have happened, and the society still has a healthy membership while membership bestows little of value to members. Were it to offer a few things, such as accredited judges and stewards being required to officiate at affiliated society matches so levelling the playing field somewhat, I feel membership would increase.If it gained the position of overall control and wielded the big stick in the form of a nationwide ban for some persistent and or violent miscreants membership would soar.
 

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