Triton direct seed drill

YELROM · Oct 13, 2018

T Hectares said:
@R J H your enthusiasm for this drill is not in question, and your apparent need to go flat out to the detriment of BG control is a little odd because they can’t provide you with a folding version is nothing less than commitment to the cause, and then your belief that AminoA will save you is great, and that the whole point of the drill is to facilitate late drilling and it’s not even late yet is all a bit full on to some of us who haven’t drilled much at all yet....

It’s all a bit

Have you actually drilled in snow in December and still averaged 12t/ha yet ??

( that’s what the claims are ) and it’s October 12th and I’m not panicking

Chill the f***k out !!

*note to self* must post random pics that prove nowt and have no worth...

I’m not a sufferer of fomo, I have resisted the urge to buy a Cross slot / triton / 750 / sky / Claydon etc etc and am getting a handle on bg without buying any metal, I like to apply another aspect which is quietly understanding my farm and what caused it in the first place ( early drilling and too little diversity of cropping )

Glad you’ve found your silver bullet !!

And breath

This is a strange thread, as you say i can't see how the Triton is going to be any better at controlling bg when that picture looks like a min tilled field

mikep · Oct 13, 2018

YELROM said:
And breath

This is a strange thread, as you say i can't see how the Triton is going to be any better at controlling bg when that picture looks like a min tilled field

Just as an aside and sorry for the hijack but I have these three beans available for £2000.............…

James W · Oct 13, 2018

T Hectares said:
@R J H your enthusiasm for this drill is not in question, and your apparent need to go flat out to the detriment of BG control is a little odd because they can’t provide you with a folding version is nothing less than commitment to the cause, and then your belief that AminoA will save you is great, and that the whole point of the drill is to facilitate late drilling and it’s not even late yet is all a bit full on to some of us who haven’t drilled much at all yet....

It’s all a bit

Have you actually drilled in snow in December and still averaged 12t/ha yet ??

( that’s what the claims are ) and it’s October 12th and I’m not panicking

Chill the f***k out !!

*note to self* must post random pics that prove nowt and have no worth...

I’m not a sufferer of fomo, I have resisted the urge to buy a Cross slot / triton / 750 / sky / Claydon etc etc and am getting a handle on bg without buying any metal, I like to apply another aspect which is quietly understanding my farm and what caused it in the first place ( early drilling and too little diversity of cropping )

Glad you’ve found your silver bullet !!

i dont think anyone is forcing you to read this thread.. if it winds you up so much you probably best not to read it ... just a thought

T Hectares · Oct 13, 2018

James W said:
i dont think anyone is forcing you to read this thread.. if it winds you up so much you probably best not to read it ... just a thought

It’s certainly not winding me up

Just very much intrigued by this miracle machine and thread, we are as forum users allowed to let flow with our thoughts from time to time are we not ??

Would be a bloody dull place if we didn’t tell it as we see it

James W · Oct 13, 2018

T Hectares said:
It’s certainly not winding me up

Just very much intrigued by this miracle machine and thread, we are as forum users allowed to let flow with our thoughts from time to time are we not ??

Would be a bloody dull place if we didn’t tell it as we see it

thats fair enough

R J H · Oct 13, 2018

T Hectares said:
@R J H your enthusiasm for this drill is not in question, and your apparent need to go flat out to the detriment of BG control is a little odd because they can’t provide you with a folding version is nothing less than commitment to the cause, and then your belief that AminoA will save you is great, and that the whole point of the drill is to facilitate late drilling and it’s not even late yet is all a bit full on to some of us who haven’t drilled much at all yet....

It’s all a bit

Have you actually drilled in snow in December and still averaged 12t/ha yet ??

( that’s what the claims are ) and it’s October 12th and I’m not panicking

Chill the f***k out !!

*note to self* must post random pics that prove nowt and have no worth...

I’m not a sufferer of fomo, I have resisted the urge to buy a Cross slot / triton / 750 / sky / Claydon etc etc and am getting a handle on bg without buying any metal, I like to apply another aspect which is quietly understanding my farm and what caused it in the first place ( early drilling and too little diversity of cropping )

Glad you’ve found your silver bullet !!

R J H · Oct 13, 2018

I have only drilled 1/3 of my wheat on clean land. last year all drilled up exsept 1field

average farmer · Oct 14, 2018

R J H said:
triton drilled w barley just emergingView attachment 726712

Looks like a lot of soil movement, is this direct or into min till ?

Thanks for the pictures

R J H · Oct 14, 2018

average farmer said:
Looks like a lot of soil movement, is this direct or into min till ?

Thanks for the pictures

Into 1lnch false seed bed for BG chit the drill dose move the top soil but dose not lift from underneath

T Hectares · Oct 19, 2018

Finally got around to reading my copy of #directdriller magazine today

( while drilling aptly enough )

An interesting read / pr overdrive from Triton...

Simon Chaplins pro Britain / Brexit stance very admirable, and yes I am aware that NH tractors are assembled in Essex ( using Italian and French componants ) but is using the example of Italian owned NH with their Belgian built Combines a glowing example of Patriotism

Last years videos had JD’s and Fendts ??

Anyway, I’m off to grow some loss making spring crops like malting SB @ £200/t ...

James W · Oct 20, 2018

2 years ago black grass swamped our the winter drilled cereals, we sprayed of the worst of it and re-drilled with spring barley and that was swamped with black grass too. Round here alot of spring barley was sprayed off this year in the drought and spring beans were not worth harvesting. But at £200/t for spring barley fill your boots.

T Hectares · Oct 20, 2018

I'm on traditional SB chalk ground and SB can match WW GM wise.

SB + later WW drilling is really sorting out the bg here, using existing kit...

James W · Oct 20, 2018

thats really good news welldone. Round here in Essex, London clay can be very tricky stuff, it literally goes from stone to plasticine with nothing inbetween. One day you cant get a tool in the ground and it the next day after a decent rain it goes to plasticine, and it stays like that until the late spring when it goes back to rock hard.. mix that in with 5 star resistant black grass and its a rare old gig !

T Hectares · Oct 20, 2018

Just can't get away from the issue of predominantly WW / OSR rotations have been a big contributor to the bg issue, clearly if spring crops don't perform on your clay then it would be madness to suggest they are the answer, but going back to more of what contributed to the mess with a potentially soil damaging piece of kit ( I can't see how boiling away at 20kph in mud on clay can't damage soil long term ) is the solution ??
I only know what I need to do here and am not offering any more thoughts than that, in fact you could argue that my type of farm shouldn't have bg anyway, and in reality it's the maximising of WW area that has allowed it to take a hold so badly on a well drained chalk farm...

James W · Oct 20, 2018

T Hectares said:
Just can't get away from the issue of predominantly WW / OSR rotations have been a big contributor to the bg issue, clearly if spring crops don't perform on your clay then it would be madness to suggest they are the answer, but going back to more of what contributed to the mess with a potentially soil damaging piece of kit ( I can't see how boiling away at 20kph in mud on clay can't damage soil long term ) is the solution ??
I only know what I need to do here and am not offering any more thoughts than that, in fact you could argue that my type of farm shouldn't have bg anyway, and in reality it's the maximising of WW area that has allowed it to take a hold so badly on a well drained chalk farm...

Yes agreed. We have to go mud plugging I am afraid. . we were one of first 5 star resistant farms 25 years ago.

T Hectares · Oct 20, 2018

James W said:
Yes agreed. We have to go mud plugging I am afraid. . we were one of first 5 star resistant farms 25 years ago.

Didn't want to "like" this !!

How have you managed resistance for 25 years, has it been niggling along and then exploded at some point??

James W · Oct 20, 2018

T Hectares said:
Didn't want to "like" this !!

How have you managed resistance for 25 years, has it been niggling along and then exploded at some point??

We have lost alot of money , tried every crop. Flufenacet doesn't work on dry clay, we have fallowed, ploughed and used frost tilth. It has been a nightmare , we did a bit of whole crop silage too. Crop walker advised a field of beet on a less heavy field as modern harvesters are clean at lifting, so we subsoiled ploughed left over winter Simba toptilth drilled, beet came up looked tight in the soil harvester snapped most of them in half and filled trailor with mud.

ih1455xl · Oct 20, 2018

Sounds like you'd be better off planting drains instead of wheat and grass it down

principal skinner · Oct 20, 2018

James W said:
We have lost alot of money , tried every crop. Flufenacet doesn't work on dry clay, we have fallowed, ploughed and used frost tilth. It has been a nightmare , we did a bit of whole crop silage too. Crop walker advised a field of beet on a less heavy field as modern harvesters are clean at lifting, so we subsoiled ploughed left over winter Simba toptilth drilled, beet came up looked tight in the soil harvester snapped most of them in half and filled trailor with mud.

Rest assured a drill isn’t going to cure your problem. Rotation rotation rotation

James W · Oct 21, 2018

ih1455xl said:
Sounds like you'd be better off planting drains instead of wheat and grass it down

If I had done that years ago it would have cured it all, we have got areas of the 2year blackgrass fallow option on stewardship option paying £515/ha now, that and drilling late give scope for optimism, the drill puts winterbeans in well we used to plough them in shalliw which was poor ,result with slabs of blackgrass across the field and rotting beans on wet polished clay,. We can drill the beans 4 inchs deep now and shut the slot so we are hoping to get glyphos on before the beans emerge. We have had zero kill from kerb and crawler in the past but usually we get a reasonable kill with kerb

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