What happens when mills refuse to let drivers sweep out
- Thread starter Bongodog
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It's just keeping the risks of drivers moving around the yard and risk getting hurt on their premises. IMO these mills should be named & shamed.
My sympathy to the driver in this case. If his employer had done the risk assessment and briefed the drivers about power lines the driver wouldn't have got as much compensation.
My sympathy to the driver in this case. If his employer had done the risk assessment and briefed the drivers about power lines the driver wouldn't have got as much compensation.
Even with all the health and safety protocols on the planets mishaps will happen. Yes the driver maybe should have been told not to tip to sweep out but then again he was driving and maybe should have looked up first.
I would also question why he was sweeping part of a customers load out into a lay-by and not a reception pit at the point of delivery.
The haulier and end user should have a joint duty of care that each load gets fully emptied before moving off the premises!
I would also question why he was sweeping part of a customers load out into a lay-by and not a reception pit at the point of delivery.
The haulier and end user should have a joint duty of care that each load gets fully emptied before moving off the premises!
Roy_H
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Sweeping a grain lorry out in a lay-by? Great news for rats!
matthew
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- Cornwall, SW England
Fly tipping?
kiwi pom
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- canterbury NZ
No a lot of places wont let you hence the reason a lot sweep out elsewhere, although instead of sweeping out I suppose many just tip the trailer and open the tailgate fully.
kiwi pom
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If hauliers all grew a set and stood up to places that have these stupid rules life would be a lot easier but getting them to stick together is about as likely as farmers all working together.
kiwi pom
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Why wouldn't they let you sweep outIt's the same sh!t that was just dumped off.
As far as I know they don't let you open the tailgate, just the grain chute, and they wont let you get into the trailer to brush the corners out.
wasted years
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I'm going to say what others are thinking, any driver that tips without looking for power lines shouldn't be on the road.
They are a danger to everyone, though I am sorry for his injury.
They are a danger to everyone, though I am sorry for his injury.
We've got a doomahicky here that reaches into the grain chute to get to the corners. Cleans out most stuff BUT we don't have to use those sock things. Most guys just prefer to open the door and use a shovel.
I get all the EHS dust rules stuff about dumping with the door open (I'm assuming that's why they have that rule anyway), but once the load is dumped and just the corners need cleaned out, I really don't see how that applies to opening the door.
While I have seen dumb Canadian truck drivers drive into power lines with their boxes up, it seems as a whole they're a little bit more able to unload grain and clean out their trucks without causing accidents and ensuing silly rules
I get all the EHS dust rules stuff about dumping with the door open (I'm assuming that's why they have that rule anyway), but once the load is dumped and just the corners need cleaned out, I really don't see how that applies to opening the door.
While I have seen dumb Canadian truck drivers drive into power lines with their boxes up, it seems as a whole they're a little bit more able to unload grain and clean out their trucks without causing accidents and ensuing silly rules
wasted years
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I think that opening the doors is frowned upon because a driver was killed when he did that and the door hit him, must have been under pressure from the trailer contents.
You would think that with tractor units costing over 100k that someone would invent a safe, quick way to empty the trailer, it is after all how haulage companies get paid, loading and unloading.
You would think that with tractor units costing over 100k that someone would invent a safe, quick way to empty the trailer, it is after all how haulage companies get paid, loading and unloading.
kiwi pom
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- canterbury NZ
Fair one but he/she only has to forget once and they're in the sh*t, the person that never made a mistake never did anything.
The blames with the driver no doubt but there's plenty of companies that know this sort of thing goes on and turn a blind eye to it, "its the drivers problem, we don't care". Its just the way the world is now, everyone's too busy covering their own arse to worry about anyone else.
Oh the doors definitely have force behind them. Especially if the trailers already tipping.
Most trucks here are belly dumps. They do need swept out now and then but they don’t have doors to whack you or such steep slopes. And they can’t lift up to hit power lines. But they do come with their own issues.
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- NSW, Newstralya
err, trucks / trailers here have air operated rear doors . . .
“Forget once” = an act that financially wipes out your workmates and destroys a business that was probably built up over decades and hundreds of thousands of man hours, all safely carried out by people who didn’t carelessly f**k up. I have a lot of sympathy for the injured driver, but I doubt a bullet point in a manual under his seat would have stopped him making a monumental error of judgement.
kiwi pom
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err, trucks / trailers here have air operated rear doors . . .
Some do not all, its just something else to go wrong. Off course with air latches you also get drivers forgetting to put the safety pins in and hitting the switches going down the road
I can think of more than one offal truck that's done that here
kiwi pom
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