What did you expect when you voted Leave?

I know this is an almost impossible request, but I am making two threads to which I would like straightforward answers. One is for those who voted Leave in the 2016 Referendum and the other is for those who voted Remain. The assumption is you expected your vote to be on the winning side.

Please only answer the question asked, and in the appropriate thread. If you did not vote in the referendum, please do not clog up the forum with a supposed “answer” to a question you cannot answer. Start another thread if you want to add some other comment. It is free of charge to do so.

I voted Leave and expected Article 50 to be invoked soon after the result and the UK to leave the EU without any “deal” between the two. No payment to be made to the EU other than ongoing commitments. WTO rules would come into force unless an agreement was reached prior to the leave date.

I will not be joining in any arguments put forward about my expectations being unrealistic, etc. All I want to know is what TFF members expected when they voted.
 

Boohoo

Member
Location
Newtownabbey
I expected a clean break from the EU. I didn't expect any sort of deal but I did expect a transition period. I expected that we would continue to contribute to any projects that we were already committed to but not agree to any additional financial contributions.
I had hoped that we would continue to work alongside our European neighbours on mutually beneficial projects, but this is looking increasingly unlikely.
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
This is confusing, did all leave voters expect that on B day all connections to Europe would be cut.
Passports , full duties, quotas, full cutoms checks, etc be imposed from day 1?
Did they not think that like all nations trading together, that mutual deals were not only important but essential?
Did they think we should automatically immediately revert to that day in 1972 , before which the EU countries would regularly dump their bacon and butter on us in return for buying our morris minors?
Of course we needs some sort of deal done before we cut all ties, whether it is just the placing of customs on each other territories, mutual agreement on aircraft landing rights etc. So many things have been mutually aligned and much of this thanks to UK pushing in Europe
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
I expecting the losing side to get behind whoever gained the most votes and not split the country
I think Labour are in big trouble now as it was a vast number of their voters that wanted a hard Brexit . Corbyn has shot himself in both feet today
But Corbyn is a very strong supporter of Brexit and always has been . The vast bulk of His supporters and certainly not in Islington have no desire for Brexit at all. At the last election TM would have been hammered if Labour had a leader who was pro remain and she certainly would not have gone to the country.
The only area where labour voters are Brexiteers is in the coastal marginals , which are critical to their very shaky position
 

Hindsight

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
But Corbyn is a very strong supporter of Brexit and always has been . The vast bulk of His supporters and certainly not in Islington have no desire for Brexit at all. At the last election TM would have been hammered if Labour had a leader who was pro remain and she certainly would not have gone to the country.
The only area where labour voters are Brexiteers is in the coastal marginals , which are critical to their very shaky position

I thought that of the 2017 Labour MPs constituencies about 160 Leave and about 100 Remain.
 

digger64

Member
I know this is an almost impossible request, but I am making two threads to which I would like straightforward answers. One is for those who voted Leave in the 2016 Referendum and the other is for those who voted Remain. The assumption is you expected your vote to be on the winning side.

Please only answer the question asked, and in the appropriate thread. If you did not vote in the referendum, please do not clog up the forum with a supposed “answer” to a question you cannot answer. Start another thread if you want to add some other comment. It is free of charge to do so.

I voted Leave and expected Article 50 to be invoked soon after the result and the UK to leave the EU without any “deal” between the two. No payment to be made to the EU other than ongoing commitments. WTO rules would come into force unless an agreement was reached prior to the leave date.

I will not be joining in any arguments put forward about my expectations being unrealistic, etc. All I want to know is what TFF members expected when they voted.
Same and a fresh start , I think most leave voters voted for change rightly or wrongly
 

Farm buy

Member
Livestock Farmer
I expecting the losing side to get behind whoever gained the most votes and not split the country
I think Labour are in big trouble now as it was a vast number of their voters that wanted a hard Brexit . Corbyn has shot himself in both feet today
It he who is on the ropes now.
 

Jackov Altraids

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
I just wanted our membership cancelled. I was always quite relaxed about the details but always considered it would be a process of a hard break with a gradual move back to something similar to the current relationship or a soft break where the EU would gradually move away from us.
As long as we were an independent nation with the power to act unilaterally, I would be content.
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

  • 0 %

    Votes: 78 42.9%
  • Up to 25%

    Votes: 63 34.6%
  • 25-50%

    Votes: 30 16.5%
  • 50-75%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 75-100%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 100% I’ve had enough of farming!

    Votes: 5 2.7%

Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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