traadilooar
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- Isle of Man
@mengeleguru is there any reverse drive option for the current model foragers?
Lely Storm mengele 40
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Paul.antrobus
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hi would you have any information or pictures on how to fit the 270 swivel to the spout on a Lely mengelle sh40n
I have the kit but no instructions with it
I have the kit but no instructions with it
- Location
- Sheffield
Can you fit it to the sh40? I'd of thought you either need the full spout off the 130 and all the electrics to go with it to work.
Paul.antrobus
New Member
Is a full conversion kit with hydraulic motor just have no instructions for it
- Location
- Ashbourne, Derbyshire
That wil be a great job when u get it done
- Location
- Cumbria
You should have a hydraulic motor with a worm gear, a set of teeth (that are bolted to the bottom of the spout) a set of bolts and spacers and some shims.
You will need need to make a bracket to mount the motor on, this will need to be braced and strengthened to withstand the torque loading when used.
Bit of fiddling, but you should manage OK.
Make sure there is a flow reducer fitted or you will blow the motor seals.
Page 44 may help a little: https://www.lely-forage.com/wp-cont...H/40/Bedienanleitung_User Manual/SH 40-EN.pdf
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mengeleguru
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- Location
- Derbyshire
Shouldn’t need a flow reducer its in the block on the end of the motor,,all the brackets are welded to the base plate any way just take the spacer out of the neck on the blower housing & it all fits.
Motor cross ways at the rear.
Make sure the bolts through the gear aren’t too long. , all done.
Easy
It’s been on before so you know it works
You will never go back to a ram when you have had one of these.
Motor cross ways at the rear.
Make sure the bolts through the gear aren’t too long. , all done.
Easy
It’s been on before so you know it works
You will never go back to a ram when you have had one of these.
grassnorway
Member
Hello!
We have a Lely Storm 130 P with a metal detector that is not reacting to metal. Any advices on how to test the metal detector?
- Location
- Cumbria
Lely Storm mengele 40
hi, I have a lely storm 130p, on the last job I did this year with it the spout would only go one way. We fill to the right of the machine and the spout wouldn't go away from the front of the trailer so made it hard to fill. Does any one know what this might be? Also we had a new metal detector...
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mengeleguru
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- Location
- Derbyshire
Metal detector testing
ring me there’s quite a bit to it realy
ring me there’s quite a bit to it realy
@mengeleguru do you have any videos of the 300 profi’s in maize? Tempted to see how much they can have shoved through them and what the chop length/corn cracking looks like. Had one come up for sale near me but want to hear how it goes in maize as I’d love to be able to get some through her to balance the costs of purchasing one.
mengeleguru
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- Location
- Derbyshire
The honest answer is
There is no point using a Lely Storm 300 or any other make or model of trailed forage harvester for doing maize.
They are too slow, you probably cant find a header any where, as there were originally only 8 made for mengele and the only other one I have seen was in Germany & was £35000.00 5 years ago.
Also
You have no cracker rollers in there, I have seen the drawings for them & they are in the parts book but never seen any ever.
If you got the feed rollers to go slow enough to cut the seeds the output goes out of the window.
It is very very important the seeds are cut or cracked or they will go straight through the animal & that’s not much good.
They are brilliant in grass but not in maize.
Hope this helps
There is no point using a Lely Storm 300 or any other make or model of trailed forage harvester for doing maize.
They are too slow, you probably cant find a header any where, as there were originally only 8 made for mengele and the only other one I have seen was in Germany & was £35000.00 5 years ago.
Also
You have no cracker rollers in there, I have seen the drawings for them & they are in the parts book but never seen any ever.
If you got the feed rollers to go slow enough to cut the seeds the output goes out of the window.
It is very very important the seeds are cut or cracked or they will go straight through the animal & that’s not much good.
They are brilliant in grass but not in maize.
Hope this helps
Hi @mengeleguruThe honest answer is
There is no point using a Lely Storm 300 or any other make or model of trailed forage harvester for doing maize.
They are too slow, you probably cant find a header any where, as there were originally only 8 made for mengele and the only other one I have seen was in Germany & was £35000.00 5 years ago.
Also
You have no cracker rollers in there, I have seen the drawings for them & they are in the parts book but never seen any ever.
If you got the feed rollers to go slow enough to cut the seeds the output goes out of the window.
It is very very important the seeds are cut or cracked or they will go straight through the animal & that’s not much good.
They are brilliant in grass but not in maize.
Hope this helps
The Lely storm for sale near me has the rotary maize head that Lely designed for sale with it, I believe it was one of the last made in 2018.
I’ve read the parts book and see that you can attach kernel plates designed to crack the kernels, as you stated I’d have no interest in using it without the ability to crack kernels. I’ve always been curious about the maize head as Lely must have proven that it could do a decent job in maize if they went through the effort of designing and producing a maize head?
Thanks
The honest answer is
There is no point using a Lely Storm 300 or any other make or model of trailed forage harvester for doing maize.
They are too slow, you probably cant find a header any where, as there were originally only 8 made for mengele and the only other one I have seen was in Germany & was £35000.00 5 years ago.
Also
You have no cracker rollers in there, I have seen the drawings for them & they are in the parts book but never seen any ever.
If you got the feed rollers to go slow enough to cut the seeds the output goes out of the window.
It is very very important the seeds are cut or cracked or they will go straight through the animal & that’s not much good.
They are brilliant in grass but not in maize.
Hope this helps
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mengeleguru
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- Derbyshire
You will have to change the paddles and tips on the disc also to serrated ones.
I've got 6 serrated paddles and tips I'd sell? Have the serrated plate that goes in the bottom too.
Fit sh40h, have done maize with sh40h 190hp on it about 10 acres a day, you add so much friction to the system it does use quite a bit of diesel.
Will easily do 50-60 acres on grass with same machine.
Fit sh40h, have done maize with sh40h 190hp on it about 10 acres a day, you add so much friction to the system it does use quite a bit of diesel.
Will easily do 50-60 acres on grass with same machine.
I’m in a different country sorry so that wouldn’t work, how well did the paddles, knives and plates work to crack the kernels? Do you have any pictures or videos of the chopped maize?
cheers
- Location
- Cumbria
The SH30H was developed to cut Maize in a reverse drive configuration, it could accommodate a 3 x row maize header. Design for processing maize usually estimated 60 hp per row, as you will see by the power of some of the early SP machines. An axle and drawbar was added to the reverse drive unit and the SH30N came to be, and the rest is history. The 30 became the 40, which became the Storm.
The question, will it crack the maize kernals is like how long is a piece of string. I've seen maize in Italy so hard, you could hardly smash it with a hammer, where of course the UK is very much weather dependent.
Short chop length slows everything down, to counter this, the reverse drive units operated at min 775 rpm or latterly 1000 rpm (flywheel). As menegleguru say's crushing rollers were designed to fit in the outlet, however a whole new top hood unit was also required, like menegleguru, I have never seen one in operation.
But I have seen machines fitted with maize plates in the flywheel housing, including the centre plate at the bottom, and serrated paddles (fitted as every other on the flywheel) in the UK. The maize kernals were hard, and the machine was doing an OK job.
So latterly as a reverse drive unit, a 4 x row maize header or rotary headers were fitted , the cost is power (4 row = 240hp min).
Hope this helps.
The question, will it crack the maize kernals is like how long is a piece of string. I've seen maize in Italy so hard, you could hardly smash it with a hammer, where of course the UK is very much weather dependent.
Short chop length slows everything down, to counter this, the reverse drive units operated at min 775 rpm or latterly 1000 rpm (flywheel). As menegleguru say's crushing rollers were designed to fit in the outlet, however a whole new top hood unit was also required, like menegleguru, I have never seen one in operation.
But I have seen machines fitted with maize plates in the flywheel housing, including the centre plate at the bottom, and serrated paddles (fitted as every other on the flywheel) in the UK. The maize kernals were hard, and the machine was doing an OK job.
So latterly as a reverse drive unit, a 4 x row maize header or rotary headers were fitted , the cost is power (4 row = 240hp min).
Hope this helps.