Tonights vote

Exfarmer · Mar 14, 2019

Muck Spreader said:
Why do you persist in posting untruths? The euro and dollar generally don't change that much, other than factors like Greece, Trump etc. However, the pound has consistently fallen against it. This is probably more down to the undertow of the banking crises, but the continuing Brexit debacle has now to be the main contributing factor.

In the past few days , the pound has risen slightly, as the markets are pricing in the possibility of a second referendum and a remain vote

bobk · Mar 14, 2019

Muck Spreader said:
Why do you persist in posting untruths? The euro and dollar generally don't change that much, other than factors like Greece, Trump etc. However, the pound has consistently fallen against it. This is probably more down to the undertow of the banking crises, but the continuing Brexit debacle has now to be the main contributing factor.

What's untrue ? £ up again this morning and the euro is under pressure , the dollar isn't relelative to the issue really

The Seeker · Mar 14, 2019

I voted remain and sadly after last nights vote it looks even more likely that we will crash out on the 29th. If the truth be told i firmly believe that second referendum whist highly unlikely would result in a landslide remain. many many people and now coming forward and saying that perhaps they didn't quite understand what they were voting for at the time. I'' never forget one lady on the news who said at the time the she though the vote on brexit was a vote to see if we should have a vote on brexit.

rob1 · Mar 14, 2019

Bomber_Harris said:
so why are you calling for No Deal WTO which would lead to tariffs of up to 40%?

- Bomber

Gone on then whats the average WTO tariffs on non food items ?

manhill · Mar 14, 2019

Bomber_Harris said:
it's a stepping stone to asking the House if they would vote in favour of asking the EU for an extension to Article 50
this is one of the most moronic posts I've seen, even for you

as bobk pointed out a few weeks ago, the pound has been rallying against the euro. The last I looked it was 1.17, yesterday it was 1.15
if No-Deal happens the pound will crash below the Euro

if Art 50 is revoked the pound will soar like an eagle, whether it gets back to pre-referendum level of 1.30 is questionable but it will most certainly most certainly soar
the financial markets are clearly expecting an Article 50 extension

- Bomber

Pound down....exports up....manufacturing up....tourism up....holidays at home up...money spent at home up....agriculture up.... Inward investment up
Not all downsides to a low pound.

Still Farming · Mar 14, 2019

Leave is leave.
More money to EU if leave date is extended in todays vote ????

Derrick Hughes · Mar 14, 2019

What was the point

Derrick Hughes · Mar 14, 2019

The Seeker said:
I voted remain and sadly after last nights vote it looks even more likely that we will crash out on the 29th. If the truth be told i firmly believe that second referendum whist highly unlikely would result in a landslide remain. many many people and now coming forward and saying that perhaps they didn't quite understand what they were voting for at the time. I'' never forget one lady on the news who said at the time the she though the vote on brexit was a vote to see if we should have a vote on brexit.

If that's the case why is a remain parliament so afraid of a 2cd vote .they have more information than we do Not even a remain parliament will support it

wellingtonfarmer · Mar 14, 2019

The Seeker said:
I voted remain and sadly after last nights vote it looks even more likely that we will crash out on the 29th. If the truth be told i firmly believe that second referendum whist highly unlikely would result in a landslide remain. many many people and now coming forward and saying that perhaps they didn't quite understand what they were voting for at the time. I'' never forget one lady on the news who said at the time the she though the vote on brexit was a vote to see if we should have a vote on brexit.

I know you find this hard to believe like all remainers. But what would happen if the result of a 2nd referendum was to leave again? It could and probably would Happen

Farmer1001 · Mar 14, 2019

wellingtonfarmer said:
I know you find this hard to believe like all remainers. But what would happen if the result of a 2nd referendum was to leave again? It could and probably would Happen

I think the obvious point of difference is a 2nd “ref” would have to be on specific terms of leaving ie no deal, Mays deal or remain. The fact that “how” we “leave” has divided Brexiteers (remainers are irrelevant) proves how rediclulous it was to seek a simple answer with a simple question to a complex situation. Btw I don’t need a 2nd ref, but would not deny anyone either side who wished to change their mind with a few more facts to hand. Ps - drop the “all remainers” ref.

Still Farming · Mar 14, 2019

Specific terms ?
Would there a ballot paper big enough ????

nivilla1982 · Mar 14, 2019

I suppose part of the reason she is apparently not sacking the remain abstainers is that the pool remaining to choose replacements from is not convinced by her "deal" either.

Farmer1001 · Mar 14, 2019

Still Farming said:
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Specific terms ?
Would there a ballot paper big enough ????

Nope not if you take into consideration the huge variation in what leave means for those who vote leave. A very articulate guy on radio yesterday stated “to all the remoaners out there who say I didn’t know what I was voting for, well I knew exactly what I was voting for, and it was neither ND or Mays deal”...

Still Farming · Mar 14, 2019

Only 2 questions on ballot paper?
Not this ,that and other personal ideas or wishes/demands ?

Farmer1001 · Mar 14, 2019

Still Farming said:
Only 2 questions on ballot paper?
Not this ,that and other personal ideas or wishes/demands ?

Which 2 though

Werzle · Mar 14, 2019

runny egg said:
Which 2 though

Seeing as leave won last time the two options should be leave without a deal or leave with TM deal. I hope the decision gets delayed long enough to get farage in number 10 and then we can have the brexit we voted for.

rob1 · Mar 14, 2019

How many times does it need saying, DC and others repeatedly said leaving the EU meant NO sm or cu, you cant have those without freedom of movemment. If remainers cant understand that then why would they understand any question on another ballot.

Edit that wasnt aimed at you werzle posts crossed

Muck Spreader · Mar 14, 2019

bobk said:
What's untrue ? £ up again this morning and the euro is under pressure , the dollar isn't relelative to the issue really

The pound is up as speculators see the likelihood of Brexit not happening at all or at worst a mild Norway + deal. Watch what happens if "no deal" reappears in a few days time. The Euro isn't doing anything much as usual.

Farmer1001 · Mar 14, 2019

rob1 said:
How many times does it need saying, DC and others repeatedly said leaving the EU meant NO sm or cu, you cant have those without freedom of movemment. If remainers cant understand that then why would they understand any question on another ballot.

Edit that wasnt aimed at you werzle posts crossed

Hang on, I think you will find plenty of "remainers" understand that point exactly, the issue is not what "remainers" do or do not understand, its the divide between Brexiteers as to what they thought they were getting. Interestingly, @Werzle says a 2nd ref should be either "leave via No Deal" or "Leave via Mays deal", in which case any "remainers" will be able to change their mind, but (ironically) "brexiteers" wont - how very democratic.
I have no doubt the situation has been made worse by virtue of a "remain" parliament, but the fact Brexiteers are so divided as to what they want has simply played right into the hands of the "remain" politicians. Even on here you have Brexiteers rejecting Mays deal whilst others support it, likewise you have the same with No Deal, how on earth are you going to get support from remainers if you cant agree on what it is you want us to support.

rob1 · Mar 14, 2019

runny egg said:
Hang on, I think you will find plenty of "remainers" understand that point exactly, the issue is not what "remainers" do or do not understand, its the divide between Brexiteers as to what they thought they were getting. Interestingly, @Werzle says a 2nd ref should be either "leave via No Deal" or "Leave via Mays deal", in which case any "remainers" will be able to change their mind but "brexiteers" wont - how very democratic.
I have no doubt the situation has been made worse by virtue of a "remain" parliament, but the fact Brexiteers are so divided as to what they want has simply played right into the hands of the "remain" politicians. Even on here you have Brexiteers rejecting Mays deal whilst others support it, likewise you have the same with No Deal, how on earth are you going to get support from remainers if you cant agree on what it is you want us to support.

Many remainers accept the vote to leave but want different versions so both sides have different views and wishes. The point remains that the governemnt at the time made it VERY clear what a vote to leave would mean, had the remainers within the government not tried to stop us lleving we would have had this sorted by now. No company on either side of the channel wants tariffs but the political masters in the eu dont give a monkeys about anything but their project and they wont care if the european citizens face any financial consequences, they are determined to make it hard for us to stop others leaving ( I dont blame them for that attitude BTW) we needed a better leader to call their bluff

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