750a row cleaners

Rich k · May 10, 2018

Hello I’m just looking at options for moving to direct drilling and came across these. Has any one had any experience with row cleaners. They look like they may do a good job of making a clean trash free row for germination but I don’t know.
http://www.bprengineering.com.au/aricks-wheel.html

Shutesy · May 10, 2018

@Clive will have all your answers

Clive · May 10, 2018

Rich k said:
Hello I’m just looking at options for moving to direct drilling and came across these. Has any one had any experience with row cleaners. They look like they may do a good job of making a clean trash free row for germination but I don’t know.
http://www.bprengineering.com.au/aricks-wheel.html
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After trying one a couple of years ago I imported several sets over the winter and now hold some UK stock for @Bprengineering who are members here

When we ran the single test cleaned you could see the difference in that row clearly, I think row cleaners are a big improvement to any disk drill especially when drilling into white strawed crops

Not often you see a zerotill drill in other countries that doesn’t have a row cleaner, guess there is good reason for that !

Feldspar · May 10, 2018

Clive said:
After trying one a couple of years ago I imported several sets over the winter and now hold some UK stock for @Bprengineering who are members here

When we ran the single test cleaned you could see the difference in that row clearly, I think row cleaners are a big improvement to any disk drill especially when drilling into white strawed crops

Not often you see a zerotill drill in other countries that doesn’t have a row cleaner, guess there is good reason for that !

Have you been using yours this spring. How have you got on with them?

Clive · May 10, 2018

Feldspar said:
Have you been using yours this spring. How have you got on with them?

yes, they went well, didn't block in cover crops etc but i don't actually think there is a lot of advantage in them on spring crops where white straw has broken down, they will come into their own on OSR and wheat after Oats or if second wheat barley after wheat etc

couple of users had an issue with adjustment that I think @Bprengineering have been helping with and there is debate over if the teathers and lifting bar are required or not, there seems ti be no need for them on my drill but others think they need them

Feldspar · May 10, 2018

Clive said:
yes, they went well, didn't block in cover crops etc but i don't actually think there is a lot of advantage in them on spring crops where white straw has broken down, they will come into their own on OSR and wheat after Oats or if second wheat barley after wheat etc

couple of users had an issue with adjustment that I think @Bprengineering have been helping with and there is debate over if the teathers and lifting bar are required or not, there seems ti be no need for them on my drill but others think they need them

Despite slightly blunt discs we didn't have a problem with residue this spring. The thing that row cleaners don't help with is that moving the residue just before seeding doesn't help to dry the soil underneath. For heavy land, wet plasticine like soil is much more of a problem than residue. I am resigned now to moving, even if it is a shallow pass, all fields which are going to be drilled in the spring. We have quite a variation of fields done in different ways this spring and the zero-till stuff is easily the worst.

Clive · May 10, 2018

Feldspar said:
Despite slightly blunt discs we didn't have a problem with residue this spring. The thing that row cleaners don't help with is that moving the residue just before seeding doesn't help to dry the soil underneath. For heavy land, wet plasticine like soil is much more of a problem than residue. I am resigned now to moving, even if it is a shallow pass, all fields which are going to be drilled in the spring. We have quite a variation of fields done in different ways this spring and the zero-till stuff is easily the worst.

you can get away with worn / blunt disks in the spring IMO - we put new on every autumn, get a big chunk of acres out of them and then finish them off on spring crops at way past the accepted best but it keeps running costs down and it really doesn't seem to matter into easy spring conditions

its the drilling into the white strawed crops where I think rsharp disks amd row cleaners will make a big difference and eliminate the hairpinning that is sometime unavoidable

zerotill crops here look exceptional this year, even my father concedes he's never seen the farm look so good ! I expect prolonged dry weather will now come and bugger up what would otherwise surely be a great year !

Rich k · May 10, 2018

How much would a set be for a 4m drill I have not bought the drill yet still pricing one up. Cheers

Clive · May 10, 2018

Rich k said:
How much would a set be for a 4m drill I have not bought the drill yet still pricing one up. Cheers

link here

https://www.marketplace.farm/farm-m...accesories/aricks-residue-manager-light-duty/

Andy Howard · Jun 2, 2018

Feldspar said:
Despite slightly blunt discs we didn't have a problem with residue this spring. The thing that row cleaners don't help with is that moving the residue just before seeding doesn't help to dry the soil underneath. For heavy land, wet plasticine like soil is much more of a problem than residue. I am resigned now to moving, even if it is a shallow pass, all fields which are going to be drilled in the spring. We have quite a variation of fields done in different ways this spring and the zero-till stuff is easily the worst.

Coming to a similar conclusion. This spring has been exceptionally bad but if it stays wet again in another spring the clay is wet I will run a spring tune through it a few days before drilling. Can’t have another yr like this in terms of establishment on heavy ground.

Will Blackburn · Jun 2, 2018

TBH I'm glad I just waited till the whole field was warm and dry enough. 7th May for the last one, it certainly looks well now.

Andy Howard · Jun 2, 2018

Will Blackburn said:
TBH I'm glad I just waited till the whole field was warm and dry enough. 7th May for the last one, it certainly looks well now.

Unfortunately we had 70ml of rain between the 29th of April and 5th of May and we were flooded. The heavy land is still not dry now really.

Feldspar · Jun 3, 2018

Andy Howard said:
Coming to a similar conclusion. This spring has been exceptionally bad but if it stays wet again in another spring the clay is wet I will run a spring tune through it a few days before drilling. Can’t have another yr like this in terms of establishment on heavy ground.

To update my post that you quoted, I would say the the worst field is a zero-till field, but the second worst was a ploughed field that was not leveled in the autumn. The best was done twice with the Terrastar (once in the autumn and once on a frost) and then straight in with the 750a.

Will Blackburn · Jun 3, 2018

Andy Howard said:
Unfortunately we had 70ml of rain between the 29th of April and 5th of May and we were flooded. The heavy land is still not dry now really.

That is bad luck, we've had less than 25mm in May and half of that came in the first 2 days. On the cusp of burning up with 10 days dry forecast!

Fat hen · Mar 20, 2019

Feldspar said:
Despite slightly blunt discs we didn't have a problem with residue this spring. The thing that row cleaners don't help with is that moving the residue just before seeding doesn't help to dry the soil underneath. For heavy land, wet plasticine like soil is much more of a problem than residue. I am resigned now to moving, even if it is a shallow pass, all fields which are going to be drilled in the spring. We have quite a variation of fields done in different ways this spring and the zero-till stuff is easily the worst.

Ditto. I find dd in heavy land esp with residue is mostly disappointing. Surface discing makes a hell of a difference, I find.

HeavyMuck · May 5, 2019

I tried those simple row cleaners on the sly drill demo but the American Yetter ones with depth control wheels appear better.

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