The Frisky Bison

GenuineRisk

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Somerset
Absolutely agree thst that this is the sort of interesting, challenging, well constructed post that benefits this forum. The deal would have been even sweeter if completed on Friday, too, as the £ strengthened!

For those making comments about the avatar (which is not one of Walter’s cows but s stock photo of a Belgian cow taken off the Internet) - that was aimed directly at us, NewPole, some years ago, derived from a bit of a rant of a post by Walter as he bought a Hereford heifer in calf to a Blue which turned out badly... not sure why anyone would put a Hereford heifer in calf to a Blue myself but you can all look the ‘discussion’ up if you can be arsed - personally, I wouldn’t bother as it wasn’t pretty and I don’t think needs resurrecting. I do think the avatar needs removing as it doesn’t reflect well on British farming in general, whatever your views on the breed are and with Walter doing a Frank Sinatra regularly on here, probably not doing himself any favours, as new regular contributors wouldn’t even know the background !

I personally think it would be a gracious move to change it - everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and views and follow them and his point has been made so maybe it’s time to move on ? Or not - won’t be losing any sleep over it either way.
 

Exfarmer

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Bury St Edmunds
I was amazed going g round the Manheim factory 40 years ago at the level of automation then, and they were then producing 40 series tractor, Think 1140 up to 4040 alongside 30 series tractors for export to the the states and Canada. They said the smaller American farmers would not pay for the sophistication fitted to the 40 series. The workers on the line, just fitted the part that was delivered to them, as the tractor rolled along.
 
I was amazed going g round the Manheim factory 40 years ago at the level of automation then, and they were then producing 40 series tractor, Think 1140 up to 4040 alongside 30 series tractors for export to the the states and Canada. They said the smaller American farmers would not pay for the sophistication fitted to the 40 series. The workers on the line, just fitted the part that was delivered to them, as the tractor rolled along.
Defo a brilliant factory trip. I did it in 1984 as part of a continental trip with a few mates. Had an excellent guide who started at the end by showing us the tractors leaving the production line and lining up outside.
Then got onto a small transport buggy and drove around several buildings etc to a railway siding. He stopped a little way off , looked at his watch , gave us some facts on the factory for a few mins , checked his watch again and drove on. As he slowed near the end of the siding a train pulled in that looked to be pulling a load of stones. It dissappeared into a building.
" Now , he announced l will show you
the bit in the middle where we first make the steel then the components and then the assembly."
Workers in the foundry were supplied with slabs of beer as the conditions were fairly tough going.
A memorable and educational tour.
 

Exfarmer

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
Defo a brilliant factory trip. I did it in 1984 as part of a continental trip with a few mates. Had an excellent guide who started at the end by showing us the tractors leaving the production line and lining up outside.
Then got onto a small transport buggy and drove around several buildings etc to a railway siding. He stopped a little way off , looked at his watch , gave us some facts on the factory for a few mins , checked his watch again and drove on. As he slowed near the end of the siding a train pulled in that looked to be pulling a load of stones. It dissappeared into a building.
" Now , he announced l will show you
the bit in the middle where we first make the steel then the components and then the assembly."
Workers in the foundry were supplied with slabs of beer as the conditions were fairly tough going.
A memorable and educational tour.

I was there in 1979, we too were surprised to see beer available, I cannot imagines many British companies supplying it in a place with such obvious dangers! The beer actually caused the only strike they ever had. After WW2 in the American sector to get things moving again The US Governement invited US companies to take over firms which they could have an interest in. For John Deere this meant the old Lanz tractor plant. Lanz tractors had been a large manufacturer before the war but after conversion to military output had suffered obliteration from bombing.
JD sent a team to recover what they could and put a plant back together. when it was up and running the workers reverted to standard Germanic practices of hard work with beer to keep them going. This did not please the JD people they were from a methodist background and hugely disapproved of drinking , so they banned beer from the site.
The men walked out only to return after the beer was allowed back in.
The other thing we noticed was there number of Women in heavy labouring work, this was because these ladies had taken over these jobs in the war and were not keen to give them up
Ps did you continue your education in the Frankfurt nightlife :D:D:D
 
Yes, UK service is pish poor, but then they're spoilt by UK farmers throwing their sub money at them. They don't need to do any work to sell stuff.
I wonder if those on here that applaud buying cheap machinery from Polandshire feel the same about consumers buying cheap beef / lamb / grain from abroad ?
One wonders how much foreign machinery from the UK has been sold here over the last 150 years?:whistle:
 

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