Replacing an oil boiler.

rollestonpark · May 14, 2019

Agreed, I inherited an oil fired AGA from my parents when they left, Always hated that thing and ran it for a bit and then removed it.
Looking back now wish we'd got rid of it straight away.

Used crazy amounts of fuel, kitchen over heats in summer, which is a total waste, maintenance is a pain with them etc etc.

We bought a nearly new Marshall cooker, that looks like an AGA, runs on oil, but we switch it on with a light switch, which is on the wall next to it.
It then heats up in about 15/20 mins, cook, switch off.

If AGAs are your thing, but you don't want to spend that kind of cash buying them and running them, these Marshalls and the like are the way to go.
British made near Derby.
http://www.marshallcookers.co.uk
Low maintenance, low fuel consumption, way cheaper than AGA.
They don't have to built/assembled in the place of use like an AGA.
Me and the builder pulled it through the kitchen door, set it up and turned it on.
Uses a balanced flue like an oil boiler, so no flue going through the house to the roof either. (unless that's what you want)

They even fit them with 2 oil burners if you want to cook and heat the house.
Friend of mine has his house heated with one, it's plumbed into the central heating system.
In this setup it's basically a modern oil boiler and cooker in one.

Suffolk Serf · May 14, 2019

rollestonpark said:
Agreed, I inherited an oil fired AGA from my parents when they left, Always hated that thing and ran it for a bit and then removed it.
Looking back now wish we'd got rid of it straight away.

Used crazy amounts of fuel, kitchen over heats in summer, which is a total waste, maintenance is a pain with them etc etc.

We bought a nearly new Marshall cooker, that looks like an AGA, runs on oil, but we switch it on with a light switch, which is on the wall next to it.
It then heats up in about 15/20 mins, cook, switch off.

If AGAs are your thing, but you don't want to spend that kind of cash buying them and running them, these Marshalls and the like are the way to go.
British made near Derby.
http://www.marshallcookers.co.uk
Low maintenance, low fuel consumption, way cheaper than AGA.
They don't have to built/assembled in the place of use like an AGA.
Me and the builder pulled it through the kitchen door, set it up and turned it on.
Uses a balanced flue like an oil boiler, so no flue going through the house to the roof either. (unless that's what you want)

They even fit them with 2 oil burners if you want to cook and heat the house.
Friend of mine has his house heated with one, it's plumbed into the central heating system.
In this setup it's basically a modern oil boiler and cooker in one.

Sounds a bit like my oil fired Rayburn, which has two fully controllable pressure jet burners. One for the central heating system and one for heating itself/cooking.
It replaced an ancient boiler, a wood burner and an electric cooker and takes no work.

Gordy1 · May 16, 2019

Grass And Grain said:
Kingspan bonded plaster board dot and dabbed upstairs. Same material onto battens downstairs. Skimmed, 2 coats of Gyproc drywall sealer (for extra vapour barrier.

Big job as need new skirting boards, window reveals etc.

Pulled up the floor boards, strung a net over floor joists, fibreglass stuffed between joists, chipboard flooring refitted.

Expensive, but should be good for a couple of hundred years.[/QUOTE
Done the same at our house, but put in under floor heating in the large dining hall & kitchen, wish I'd put it in all down stairs rooms now though.

Courier · May 17, 2019

akaPABLO01 said:
Seal your roof and insulate the loft minimum 300mm

Then get a quote for a ground source heat pump with rad pack.

Or even an ASHP .

So much cheaper and still attracts a fair amount of RHI.

ollie989898 · May 18, 2019

What are the options for loft insulation, I think our gaff has only maybe 100mm of what looks like fibreglass to me and it doesn't strike me as being anything like effective enough. We have a lot of ceiling spot lights though. What are my options to replace the stuff with something better? Keeping the upstairs of the house a sniff warmer in winter would be good for the kids.

DrWazzock · May 18, 2019

I think it's about time to replace my old boiler.

Gordy1 · May 19, 2019

ollie989898 said:
What are the options for loft insulation, I think our gaff has only maybe 100mm of what looks like fibreglass to me and it doesn't strike me as being anything like effective enough. We have a lot of ceiling spot lights though. What are my options to replace the stuff with something better? Keeping the upstairs of the house a sniff warmer in winter would be good for the kids.

270mm is the minimum for fibre insulation & wool insulation, put that on top of what you already have & that should keep you snug, rigid insulation board requirement aren't so thick I believe it's around 125mm, it's easier to just install fibre but make sure your wrap up well & wear a mask as it will make you itch quite a bit!!!.

br jones · May 19, 2019

DrWazzock said:
I think it's about time to replace my old boiler.

And what does she say about that ?

br jones · May 19, 2019

Gordy1 said:
270mm is the minimum for fibre insulation & wool insulation, put that on top of what you already have & that should keep you snug, rigid insulation board requirement aren't so thick I believe it's around 125mm, it's easier to just install fibre but make sure your wrap up well & wear a mask as it will make you itch quite a bit!!!.

And if his ceiling spots are the older version with no fire shrouds ,the house will be on fire in minutes ,so dont go putting insulation on top of your lights,.just check before you do something daft .

Gordy1 · May 19, 2019

br jones said:
And if his ceiling spots are the older version with no fire shrouds ,the house will be on fire in minutes ,so dont go putting insulation on top of your lights,.just check before you do something daft .

Screw fix amongst others sell the shrouds,

Exfarmer · May 19, 2019

Gordy1 said:
Screw fix amongst others sell the shrouds,

Even with the shrouds I would change them for LED we shrouds burning out using halogen spots in the ceiling

Little squeak · May 19, 2019

How much doe's everyone else spend to heat their houses? We have an old 5 bedroom house with loft insulation and solid walls it has 15 radiators heated by a worchester danesmoor 20/25 it keeps all the house hot, REALLY hot and uses about 2000litres of kero burning oil per year, the last of which cost 50p a litre including the VAT. so thats £1000 a year, we do use electric to heat the water in summer when the heating isn't on. How much do other systems cost to run?

Timbo · May 19, 2019

Smith31 said:
Insulate, insulate, insulate the first 25mm of Kingspan will make the biggest difference.

I cannot like this enough.

OP- Wtf are you pumping more heat in only for it to escape like you're trying to heat a sieve. Stop it escaping in the first place.

br jones · May 19, 2019

Little squeak said:
How much doe's everyone else spend to heat their houses? We have an old 5 bedroom house with loft insulation and solid walls it has 15 radiators heated by a worchester danesmoor 20/25 it keeps all the house hot, REALLY hot and uses about 2000litres of kero burning oil per year, the last of which cost 50p a litre including the VAT. so thats £1000 a year, we do use electric to heat the water in summer when the heating isn't on. How much do other systems cost to run?

Just built a new 4 bed dormer ,insulation everywhere,heating and hot water since october 355litres of gas @ 37ppl

ollie989898 · May 19, 2019

Exfarmer said:
Even with the shrouds I would change them for LED we shrouds burning out using halogen spots in the ceiling

To be fair we have already done this. The only spot lights that are non-LED are the ones in the bath room and we are changing them next. They are the old 12v type on a dimmer.

robcollins · May 19, 2019

ollie989898 said:
To be fair we have already done this. The only spot lights that are non-LED are the ones in the bath room and we are changing them next. They are the old 12v type on a dimmer.

For passive houses, they sell a sealed cover for spotlights etc.

Don’t let the word passive put you off. They’re for stopping the draughts that come down from the roof space.

That’ll help too.

They’d keep things nice and neat if you lay fibreglass insulation. Remember not to lay it over the cables that feed the lights too.

I’m sure you already know, but wash off the fibres with cold water. Hot water will open your pores and let some fibres into them. Nasty itch!

Gordy1 · May 19, 2019

robcollins said:
For passive houses, they sell a sealed cover for spotlights etc.

Don’t let the word passive put you off. They’re for stopping the draughts that come down from the roof space.

That’ll help too.

They’d keep things nice and neat if you lay fibreglass insulation. Remember not to lay it over the cables that feed the lights too.

I’m sure you already know, but wash off the fibres with cold water. Hot water will open your pores and let some fibres into them. Nasty itch!

That's what I was advised once, get under a cold shower it really works

ollie989898 · May 19, 2019

I think the spotlights have the funny little igloos over the top of them.

Gordy1 · May 19, 2019

Little squeak said:
How much doe's everyone else spend to heat their houses? We have an old 5 bedroom house with loft insulation and solid walls it has 15 radiators heated by a worchester danesmoor 20/25 it keeps all the house hot, REALLY hot and uses about 2000litres of kero burning oil per year, the last of which cost 50p a litre including the VAT. so thats £1000 a year, we do use electric to heat the water in summer when the heating isn't on. How much do other systems cost to run?

Oil fired central heating running fourteen rads & large dining hall & kitchen with ufh on a 110 combi boiler, running costs approx. £240 every 3 months, plus we have a log burner in the living room so don't have to have the c/h on all the time.

Gordy1 · May 19, 2019

ollie989898 said:
I think the spotlights have the funny little igloos over the top of them.

I'm gradually replacing all the old lamps for LED, thing is I like the clear candle light ones but the LEDs seem to mostly be white.

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