del_boy
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- Location
- Herefordshire
I first saw this or 1 very simular and was 126k, a few weeks later was 120k now its dropped even more
JD 6250R
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Daniel
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- Location
- Mildenhall, Suffolk
Says it's now done 1100 hrs at the bottom of the page. A mere £31/hr.
I hope they weren't doing contract work at £35/hr inc man and diesel with it!
Surely not!
- Location
- Holderness
We have just done similar. We paid a little less but it had a few more hours on it. Similar difference to the 6215 as well. Personally I really like it, which is good as I drive it and paid for it. Very nice formhaulage and good in the field. Just getting to grips with the features but find it fairly straight forward to use.
holywell farmer
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- Location
- holywell, north wales
Do find it uses its
Power well?
- Location
- Holderness
For what we’ve done it seems perfectly fine. I don’t think we’re losing anything anywhere
- Location
- Northumberlandia
am no deere expert infact far from it but id say Deano here sums it it pretty well as he allready has a 6215r & recently the place where he works changed it for another one much the same.
I think his original one had a chip on of some sort but even so he aint totally convinced by the 6250r
make your own minds up
Farming cant sustain these way over priced Machines but if you have to have one then good luck.
I think his original one had a chip on of some sort but even so he aint totally convinced by the 6250r
make your own minds up
Farming cant sustain these way over priced Machines but if you have to have one then good luck.
- Location
- Holderness
Your right in saying that farming can’t sustain these prices. But whilst there are ‘subsidies’ around others are going to want a pull on those. That said for me the 6250 replaces a 7r and it’s a far more versatile tractor for what we want. It’s taking pressure off my second tractor that had to do a lot of jobs that the 7r was to big for. So the 7800 is breathing easier and will take a little longer to reach its 20k hours.
Pingu
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In what way can’t farming sustain these size machines? Don’t get me wrong the price has gone crazy but I can still stack them up on my balances but they have to be doing 1000-1500hrs minimum anybody doing less is either direct drilling (wish we could but can’t due to cropping) or way over capacity!! These machines need to work I am amazed at machines at 5yrs old with barely 2500hrs being traded in that is mad and stupid in my opinion get your value from them.
Farming needs to go more like industry either run them intensively or long term 7-10000hr+ lives need to be common not oh I want a new tractor cause I think it’s old or bored with it. I’ve only had big problems with machines worked hard and aren’t built strong enough or getting up there hours wise 8k+. Just cause dad bought a tractor in 1960 cause he sold a lorry of wheat is gone we are a business not a charity and that is way public and other buisness’s will always see us going forward.
- Location
- Northumberlandia
I dont know your farming business but us TENANTS are getting our finances taken to the cleaners.
like ive said before if i owned the place i call home id have a new tractor every 5years & fully warrantied the lot.
but because iam not in that luxurious position you might aswell parkup & do nowt & take the sub until it runs out.
I cant get any bigger unless you fancy paying silly 3 figure sums to rent land then good luck it wont pay.
seeing the bigger farming outfits are going to take a financial hit more then us smaller guys subs wise the game will
change but to then compete on world prices on smaller scale PASS its a tough job with not the best of futures long term
Yep i can't understand anyone part exing tractors with relatively low hours either but i'm glad they do so the next owner can put a few more on before part exing it again at a price i can finally afford
Pingu
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I work as part of a bigger business involved in CFA across reasonable size sites aka 3000+ so cost is a huge factor hence 1000+hrs an annum. And I feel for tenant farmers I have strongly looked at it and even on council farms they want 160-200 an acre to rent them out and I couldn’t get there without using old kit and I work to much now to run it as a sideline. I can’t justify new kit without it working and that does mean sticking 400hp on a trailer at times or bale cart. On subs wise I won’t get involved as a lot don’t agree with me on that front and makes farming unfair and should go as it’s abused!!
- Location
- Northumberlandia
3000+ sites yeessshhh
be fine if all the fields were 200ac but i bet there nowhere near that.
Rents at 160-200 how does anyone make anything at that?
Not near 3 figures here & i loath every penny of it.
if its for cereals ya gonna need 5t/ac just to stand still.
3.5t wheat ave here over 10yrs & thats doing everything right.
Soil Scanned/ Zone Sampled/ Vari Rate Applied Trace elements.
Agchems as n when at correct rates.
FYM & Henpen applied also.
still wont do 5t it only manged an ave of just over 4t across the board in 2015 but so did everyone else's.
Ive got more HP than sum think you need but i know the land best.
Just gotta hope the rich men in this job keep buying there mental toys & hopefully we might pick up a used bargain
eventually but its no easy
be fine if all the fields were 200ac but i bet there nowhere near that.
Rents at 160-200 how does anyone make anything at that?
Not near 3 figures here & i loath every penny of it.
if its for cereals ya gonna need 5t/ac just to stand still.
3.5t wheat ave here over 10yrs & thats doing everything right.
Soil Scanned/ Zone Sampled/ Vari Rate Applied Trace elements.
Agchems as n when at correct rates.
FYM & Henpen applied also.
still wont do 5t it only manged an ave of just over 4t across the board in 2015 but so did everyone else's.
Ive got more HP than sum think you need but i know the land best.
Just gotta hope the rich men in this job keep buying there mental toys & hopefully we might pick up a used bargain
eventually but its no easy
Tompkins
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- Location
- NE Somerset
Well according to a few recent quotes you couldn't be more wrong. £40k difference between 6250R and 828.
This isn’t true. Machinery is far better value than labour because machinery has a used value. Labour does not. Our tractors are doing about 750 hours per year. After 4 years use and sold with a year of warranty remaining they are valued at a premium to the ones with 5000 hours on them.
People need to keep labour costs in check more so than machinery costs because each man costs £30,000/year easily when everything is factored into it.
As for prices we’ve got a 6250R autopower quote currently sat on the desk for £138,000 brand new not that we are interested in it as we are finding Case better value these days.
Fragonard
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Which is the cheap one[emoji15]
Tompkins
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- Location
- NE Somerset
JD cheaper than Fendt. You could argue they are apples and pears but I think the 6250R compares a lot more to the 828 than a 724. Somebody on here replaced a 828 with a 6250R, @ian828 i think??
ollie989898
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Sticker price is largely irrelevant, its cost per hour or hectare that matters and you wont know that exactly unless you have a guaranteed trade in price.
warksfarmer
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Fendt were doing guaranteed buy backs at £10-£11/hour depreciation including finance interest as long as it was dealer serviced which was price on top at I think £1.50/hour including materials. Warranty was included in the above deal.
They are not any longer!
Pingu
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Not to sure on that as good labour is very different to labour and sadly there are a lot of people in ag that are really not up to the demands of setting up complicated machines, maintaining them and doing things to a high standard of work then the large amounts of paper work required etc. It is no longer a bum on seat day and age. A man costing £15 an hour can make all the difference across a season with a machine costing £80+ an hour to operate with all following operations involved as well.
But when I’ve sat down and done the figures for us and true values that say your machine with 3750 hours to my machine with 6000hours at 5 years old has cost less per hour and per hectare covered! Well has so far for me with 2 high end green brands. Blue brand not so much as they lost money like a stone post 4000hrs.
Everyone is different in how they run. A good man on a big machine covering a lot of ground is cheaper for me then a poor quality man covering less in less time. And our blokes cost us well over 40k each to the business but far cheaper overall in long run. Labours value is in efficiency and job quality not a used value