No I won’t retweet it! The postal votes system needs changing and changing fast,if it was a foreign government meddling rather then our own there would rightly be outrage and I fail to see how it’s a conspiracy theory when the man who posted it originally openly wrote about it on his Twitter page but took it down once people started reporting it to the authorities
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I did but it was not to join the EU.
You are wrong.
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Do you think that pic will lose DR votes?
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No idea, but it was a great series, but I would think Alan B'stards approach to politics would still be very appealing to some members of society.
Do you think that pic will lose DR votes?
[/QUOTE]No idea, but it was a great series, but I would think Alan B'stards approach to politics would still be very appealing to some members of society.
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I still can't get over the difference in voter id requirements in NI and the rest of the Kingdom.
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Yep concur about the postal voting system being open to corruption.
But then all systems are open to corruption - even the walk in to you polling station is potentially as someone could pretend to be you or me and take your or mine vote. has been known. But it is rare and likely to be rare, especially in rural areas with small electorate often known to the polling station staff.
So there is a trade off between security and integrity of the actual vote and inclusivity of the electorate. It is the extent of voter fraud that is important to know and understand if it is sufficient to actually affect a result.
So, one man casting a few votes at a care home is unlikely (my use of unlikely as a word) to swing a vote. Though it may cement in the minds of the doubtful the view that this is widespread and affecting democracy. The sort of mistruth that I would use if intending to affect another country!? So did that tweet emanate from St Petersburg? Or maybe The Brexit Party or whoever. Who knows - hence conspiracy.
A mistruth that results in 100s of thousands incorrectly casting a vote may be of more importance.
I have not the answer by the way. But I did like to read John le Carre novels. All fascinating stuff. The comment about he blackgrass herbicide is true by the way.
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Indeed, in same way I find it interesting to ponder the right of women to abortions in NI. Guess we are kinda different across the water. Best wishes,
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Cases of personation are very rare in the mainland UK. If such a case is reported the offending vote can be retrieved and discarded.
I understand that it used to be more frequent in NI, whether it is truth or not I am now sure, however the old quip , “ vote early, vote often” is supposed to originate from there.
It is a strange fact that UK voters do not have to produce any identification when polling as opposed to many countries.
The postal vote is far more likely to be abused and I am certain is especially, in certain communities. There is absolutely no reason for it in 90% of cases
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Nivilla's post refers to NI. and yes, I concur that voter impersonation was more of a problem in NI.
I think the lack of voter identity requirement in mainland UK is a true reflection of the general honesty, integrity and stability of our democracy and a reflection of the UK population going back over decades. We are a truthful nation. Now that is maybe changing. And possibly more so in certain sectors of society - I am going to leave that comment there.
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The trouble is it’s not just one doing it,there’s loads of them you only need to read his Twitter account to see them bragging about it. I am afraid the only way to stop it is to have some form of voter id requirement because the system we have now is not fit for purpose
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He is correct if its foreign debt ratios you are looking at. The US owes 29 trillion and the UK 8 trillion, but its nothing to worry about and in fact shows faith in an economy. The risk happens when investors become nervous over the security of their investments and start to withdraw them or look to other safer counties for future investments. Who knows if the the lack of any viable Brexit planning will cause this turbulence, time will tell but once it stars its very difficult to stop.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35980195
Any truth in the twitter pictures of a convicted vote rigger been part of the Labour campaign for the by election?
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Ah, his twitter account says so, sure you are correct. My the bots from St Petersburg that roam around the TFF site will have logged your post and recorded a direct hit with the 'cruise missile' one victory, albeit small for a certain Mr V Putin.
Of course - I may well be wrong, or I am from GCHQ. You will never know.
Best wishes, see you at Cereals.
Surely they link the demand for postal votes from any address to the voting register.
And why on earth don't we get an indelible-ink stamp on our hands as we go in to vote? It used to work for the village dance.
It would stop the practice of a certain party, where their more ardent supporters when they are not in the betting shop or working-men's clubs, of offering to transport the more vulnerable voters to the polling station - with the alternative offer to take their voting card and to vote for them according to their wishes
And why on earth don't we get an indelible-ink stamp on our hands as we go in to vote? It used to work for the village dance.
It would stop the practice of a certain party, where their more ardent supporters when they are not in the betting shop or working-men's clubs, of offering to transport the more vulnerable voters to the polling station - with the alternative offer to take their voting card and to vote for them according to their wishes
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Surely they link the demand for postal votes from any address to the voting register.
And why on earth don't we get an indelible-ink stamp on our hands as we go in to vote? It used to work for the village dance.
It would stop the practice of a certain party, where their more ardent supporters when they are not in the betting shop or working-men's clubs, of offering to transport the more vulnerable voters to the polling station - with the alternative offer to take their voting card and to vote for them according to their wishes
Indelible ink mark man - for god sakes we are British. It is only with those untrustworthy fuzzy wuzzys that is required.
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Indeed, the main suspicions in NI at elections at present. is the use of postal/proxy votes. Ie certain constituencies had a large number of applications for such votes higher than previous elections.
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Not a clue. But it is fun on here at the moment. Was going off to take my son to cricket and then walk some fields - but cricket is now cancelled, so may stay here a wee while to see how much conspiracy we can all cram into this thread.
Thanks for the link. I was vaguely aware. I am following the situation in USA currently where Roe v Roe seems to be under assault from right wing Republicans. hey ho.
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Look at what EU citizens had to deal with. From what I hear only around 200,000 of the 3 million EU nationals in the UK managed to get though all the hurdles put in place to vote in the EU elections. Whereas around 1.2 million had previously voted in 2009 despite there being less of them in the country.
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https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/deniedmyvote/Look at what EU citizens had to deal with. From what I hear only around 200,000 of the 3 million EU nationals in the UK managed to get though all the hurdles put in place to vote in the EU elections. Whereas around 1.2 million had previously voted in 2009 despite there being less of them in the country.
The voting system in this country is open to all sorts of corruption. Turn up at 7am and place your vote with no polling card and no ID asked for. Turn up later when new staff are on and use someone else`s vote who you know to be away. Of course somebody could do the same to you.
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