- Location
- Devon
Really!!??!!
Not according to gth market reports or any trade I've seen.
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Not according to gth market reports or any trade I've seen.
you don't believe those market reports do you ?
gone up the hill
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- Location
- Devon
I have seen plenty of calves sold over the last few months and I have seen plenty of Fri bulls make more than contx/nativex calves like for like.
GTH reports even state some weeks that Fri bull calves are very much in demand and actually selling to a faster trade than con/ nativex calves.
For example I saw 2 smart Hereford bulls make £95 in Exeter last week, then a few mins later 3 HFx bull calves made £102.....................
- Location
- Devon
Maybe, but decent conti x will make £100- 200 more than decent b&w
Sorry iv just read back I got it wrong.im sure it said longhorn
Sir loin
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- Location
- North Yorkshire
I have a dairy farmer neighbour who will lose his contract if they find out he shoots calves at birth.
ISCO
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- Location
- North East
This is what i meant in post above. I was not saying it should happen just speculating on what might happen.
We all know beef price is the problem but not a lot we can do about it.
As you say there is room for continental calf price to fall.
In time will sexed semen vastly reduce BW bull numbers.this may be direction the industry is forced to take.
One thing is for sure at £3 nobody can carry on as we are.
- Location
- North Yorkshire
Interestingly it appears that sexed semen from beef breeds is gaining popularity amongst dairy farmers as more choice of sire becomes available.They want bull calves not heifers as they are worth more. I guess as demand drops from the suckler herd for heifers as replacements it won’t create a shortage for anyone. If nearly all cont.x calves end up being male in years to come I wonder if it will have any effect on anything?
harperfarmer
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Already having a huge effect I'd say. In time the level of beef x calves coming out of the dairy herd will place significant pressure on the suckler industry to the point that it will only remain in areas of the UK that cannot support any other form of farming. Or the very very efficient producers who can get their cow costs on the floor. Its already well over 50% of the UK's beef that's supplied by the dairy herd and with wider use of sexed seen that's only going to increase im sure.
livestock 1
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A lot of dairy bred store cattle coming forward here and a lot of buyers not interested in them. There’s a huge gap in values easily £300 for the bigger end £200 plus for the lesser end.
- Location
- North Yorkshire
Yes but that figure only equates to the difference in value at the other end. The days of -5p for an O+ and -12p for an O- are gone. -15p to -50p now. The gap is just widening to fit people are beginning to realise.
Where is -50p
livestock 1
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If you look at it another way there’s no chance in me being able to present a store beast at sale 500 kilos at £900 and make a profit on the other hand a reasonably well shaped beef bred store at 400 kilos can make over £1000
harperfarmer
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I think going forward the open market will play less of a role and/or have less of an impact on those dairy bred beast as so many will be tied up in integrated supply chains and be put onto farms at 4/5 months after rearing rather than pitched in markets at varying ages. Don't get me wrong there will still be a number traded in that way but I would imagine them to he in the minority.
Heard the same a few months ago by a buyer for an abatoir makes you not want to bother with the job!
ISCO
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- Location
- North East
At the moment dairy bred need rearing and fattening on farm and selling deadweight. I know a man doing this and does very well.
livestock 1
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The buyers I see in the stores look as if they are full up with those type of cattle. It’s good for those of us who have the beef types as it pushes the price up as there isn’t as many of that type forward at this time of year
- Location
- Lincolnshire
My lim x shorthorn bullocks are at 600 kg now. For selling through a market, is this heavy enough or should I get them heavier ?
I notice heavier steers make less per kg but is there a weight where youstart losing money, generally speaking.
I notice heavier steers make less per kg but is there a weight where youstart losing money, generally speaking.