harperfarmer
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I'd be interested to know how you found this out!? Why would they quit when they are underwritten at a price significantly higher than the current base price!?
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I'd be interested to know how you found this out!? Why would they quit when they are underwritten at a price significantly higher than the current base price!?
- Location
- N.Lincs
NEWS FLASH
We interrupt this 'doom and gloom' in the beef job to say a few rays of sunshine fell on Newark today
1700 lambs in............ SQQ 225.35p/kg
Our best pen 38kg beltex/texel crosses........£103.50 (272.4p/kg)
Trailer load averaged 243,32p/kg.
Happy enough with that
We interrupt this 'doom and gloom' in the beef job to say a few rays of sunshine fell on Newark today
1700 lambs in............ SQQ 225.35p/kg
Our best pen 38kg beltex/texel crosses........£103.50 (272.4p/kg)
Trailer load averaged 243,32p/kg.
Happy enough with that
livestock 1
Member
Well done you.NEWS FLASH
We interrupt this 'doom and gloom' in the beef job to say a few rays of sunshine fell on Newark today
1700 lambs in............ SQQ 225.35p/kg
Our best pen 38kg beltex/texel crosses........£103.50 (272.4p/kg)
Trailer load averaged 243,32p/kg.
Happy enough with that
Ready for some good news
St Merryn £4 for springers quoted. Seems they want a quiet week. Newark at £2.25 liveweight cant see with farmers being a lot more savvy re internet info on trade will not be tempted to go dead. Pound is weaker at 89p and as it was 20 years ago when Farmers Ferry was set up export is key so sort Brexit out and trade with the World!!!!
Plain steer
Member
Part of the fun in feeding cattle comes from buying and selling them these integrated beef schemes would soon become very boring and would be just working for a bad wage off the processors
haymaker80
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- Location
- Stafford
How do these schemes work? Is it a guaranteed price set when you buy the weanlings or a bonus over base price at the time of selling?
livestock 1
Member
The ones I know of are through the auctions where you buy out of the store ring on credit then place the cattle through a processor of the markets choice agreed before you start. When the beast is killed the mart gets paid first and you get what’s left.
livestock 1
Member
No guarranteed price
gone up the hill
Member
- Location
- Devon
By talking to farmers/ hauliers etc etc.
Several different reasons why but the most common ones seems to be
1: cattle/ calves etc much more expensive than on the open market.
2 : Quality of calves/ stirks in particular start off fine with the first 1/2 batches then you end up with more and more calves with problems/ ill health etc and you end up with poor growth rates and massive costs for meds etc and of course when you don't hit the agreed growth rates due to the former comments you then get hammered on price when you sell them to the next person in the chain, has been cases where farmers have had say batches of stock in and had no choice but to send them back 2/3/4 weeks later.
3 : You take all the risks/ do all the work but never actually make anything due to the above comments.
Some stick at it of course but a lot do it for say 12/18 months then pull out.
I wouldn’t hold your breath!
If it’s anything like the heifer rearing game that some people have done don’t expect a major profit at divvying up time.
dinderleat
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- Location
- Wells
Anyone put any cattle through
pickstocks lately sent some this week and a bit disappointed in the grades. I think they’ve gone down the computerised grading system?
pickstocks lately sent some this week and a bit disappointed in the grades. I think they’ve gone down the computerised grading system?
Plain steer
Member
One farmer told me he was paying buitlair 285pound for weaned bw bulls well you can buy the same article for 120/140 in the marts so from what I can see buitlair is giving a fair end price but shafting you with the calf price
livestock 1
Member
It’s wrong for auction companies to ask people to use the marts when they are placing so much stock on deadweight contracts.
Me to they call o- cows p grades most of the time
I find that with B&W Bulls with ABP. Luckily they are a flat rate so you don't lose out. They also use automatic grading.
harperfarmer
Member
I'm quite happy 4 years in. Calf quality has got better and price is locked in. Works for me.
harperfarmer
Member
Guaranteed base price. Calves paid for and pay for them when killed. Works well.
Had a load down last week and they all graded fine. No different to normal.
Don't those computer grading camera things favour better carcasses and hammer the poorer confirmation ones? That was my understanding of it. I was told dairy cattle will grade badly on a computer compared to a man in the line grading by eye but suckler bred cattle are ok.
Is the base price permanently fixed or relative to the national base price? Rn't the calves very expensive compared to rearing or buying in your self?