- Location
- Near Derby
jendan you think you are cleverer than me, so I ask you...what is the larger number...17.4 million or 16.1 million?
Next Tory Leader
- Thread starter wanton dwarf
- Start date
jendan you think you are cleverer than me, so I ask you...what is the larger number...17.4 million or 16.1 million?
- Location
- Northumberland
I dont think i am cleverer than you or anyone else;i know my own limitations.The vote was taken 3 years ago now,it is not my fault or others that voted remain that we are still in it.It would indicate that there are major problems in doing so,or it would have been done.
Danllan
Member
- Location
- Sir Gar / Carms
Hmm that story again... you don't think that there being a Remain supporting PM and her appointing a Remain and Federal EU supporting 'chief negotiator' were in any way factors?
The people voted to leave, the above two and a majority in Parliament thought the people were wrong and they all joined together to do their best to thwart Brexit, so far they have done so successfully - but it now looks like they are going to fail.
It would have been better had the deal been done long ago, which it could have been; but the simple fact is that where there is a genuine will, a way will be found.
- Location
- Northumberland
If Johnson gets the job,then ends up with a fudge deal or a BRINO,i would laugh my head off!
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
He'll blame those that went before him in their negotiation handling, after all (unbelievably) that's what Davies and Raaaab did already
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
At least Raaaaab can't use the excuse he was asleep at the wheel for nearly 2 years. Maybe that's one reason why the Master Negotiator didn't stand for Leader?
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
Doesn't matter now, the heroes are here to show us how easy it was all along
Popcorn ready
. If BoJo can't then Nige can have a go
- Location
- Limousin/Charentes toad land
- Location
- Bay of Plenty NZ
Apologies if you were offended by the comment regarding your post of two world cups and one world war, it was not my intention to offend, I was referring to the comment being ignorant not the person making it.
The chant of two World Wars and one World Cup is generally chanted on the football terraces not as a joke but more as a means of feeling superior over the opposition, your comment regarding a little country like mine and a huge economy like yours is in the same vein, the money generated is not always the most important factor, to put it into the sporting context, your country has a huge amount of capital available to finance Rugby Union along with a larger pool of players to call on and yet they still lose more than 80% of the tests played against a "little country" at the bottom of the South Pacific with a small population. The oldest sporting prize in history has never been won by Britain, yet this "little country" has won it several times, last time was in Bermuda when they took on a country with a huge economy and not only beat them but did so convincingly, skippered by a 26 year old kid. that is a fundamental difference between the two countries, the UK still lives in the past and longs for past glories, the old colonies tend to look forward and are more prepared to innovate giving new ideas and the younger generation a fair go.that mind set and attitude is prevalent in New Zealand society, which is one reason why they can manage outside a large trading block, we also have several trading agreements around the world, so in essence are part of several trading blocks, those agreements have taken years to negotiate.
The next Tory leader will need some serious negotiating skills and I cannot see it going well if those negotiations start along the lines of you need us more than we need you, but hey ho you never know, best of luck with the future, you will certainly need it if you crash out with no deal at all.
linga
Member
- Location
- Ceredigion
And yet one of the remainer arguments is that the UK will not prosper because it will be up against larger groupings.
Your post admirably demonstrates that larger does not necessarily mean better !
- Location
- Bay of Plenty NZ
Fair comment, all you need to do is get some agreements in place.
And you can`t do that until you throw off the shackles. Horse first, cart second unfortunately.
Danllan
Member
- Location
- Sir Gar / Carms
I would be very sad.
He'll blame those that went before him in their negotiation handling, after all (unbelievably) that's what Davies and Raaaab did already
See below...
The reasons they gave were:
1) Being told to negotiate and then, when they did, being told not to negotiate;
2) Having TM's Europhile and (unbelievably) federal-Europe-advocating appointee - civil servant Ollie Robbins - given permission to over-rule and replace their efforts.
Perhaps they were oversensitive, but there must be a grain of understanding for their being miffed at being told not to do what they were told to do and then having someone who wants the UK in a federal EU given carte blanche to undermine them, isn't there...
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
I would be very sad.
See below...
The reasons they gave were:
1) Being told to negotiate and then, when they did, being told not to negotiate;
2) Having TM's Europhile and (unbelievably) federal-Europe-advocating appointee - civil servant Ollie Robbins - given permission to over-rule and replace their efforts.
Perhaps they were oversensitive, but there must be a grain of understanding for their being miffed at being told not to do what they were told to do and then having someone who wants the UK in a federal EU given carte blanche to undermine them, isn't there...
Davies was on post for nearly 2 years. Don't buy it
Raaab even publicly stated he'd underestimated the importance of Dover as a port
Well there's no hiding now
caveman
Member
- Location
- East Sussex.
The late great Bill Shankley said something like........
"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. It's not. It's far more important."
Therefore. Germany wins hands down.
Last edited:
Rather as I suspected so it is perfectly understandable that both would blame the previous regime. Why do people wonder why this charade has gone on for three years when throughout it was a glorious sham orchestrated by remainers who were paying lip service to Brexit?I would be very sad.
See below...
The reasons they gave were:
1) Being told to negotiate and then, when they did, being told not to negotiate;
2) Having TM's Europhile and (unbelievably) federal-Europe-advocating appointee - civil servant Ollie Robbins - given permission to over-rule and replace their efforts.
Perhaps they were oversensitive, but there must be a grain of understanding for their being miffed at being told not to do what they were told to do and then having someone who wants the UK in a federal EU given carte blanche to undermine them, isn't there...
One or two points which I think need correcting. Britain does not play World Championship Rugby union, and England has won it once in recent years. England are improving with the help of an Aussie coach and a few men from the south Pacific in the lineup. We also play a game called soccer.
Last edited:
- Location
- Northumberland
You are putting all your hope in Johnson to be your saviour.........I would be very sad.
See below...
The reasons they gave were:
1) Being told to negotiate and then, when they did, being told not to negotiate;
2) Having TM's Europhile and (unbelievably) federal-Europe-advocating appointee - civil servant Ollie Robbins - given permission to over-rule and replace their efforts.
Perhaps they were oversensitive, but there must be a grain of understanding for their being miffed at being told not to do what they were told to do and then having someone who wants the UK in a federal EU given carte blanche to undermine them, isn't there...