Stabiliser cows to charolais bull

Agric

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Location
East Yorkshire
I was having a browse on the Stabiliser website last week and there was mention of one of their top men stateside using a Charolais bull.

I saw some of Leachman's Charolais bulls in the flesh last year, they were quite different to a lot of the British Charolais I've seen here. Finer boned and similar in size to the Stabiliser and Angus bulls also on the farm, I'd be quite tempted to use on over Stabiliser cows if not breeding replacements.
 

JohnB_4

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Location
N.Ireland
OK, an update, have bought a few in-calf stabiliser cows a few in-calf heifers and a couple of bulling heifers. First calved this week and hopefully a few more this month, all to be calved by end of May. Thinking of using Stabiliser AI on a few to get replacement cows and hoping to get updates here on how you all are getting on with Sportsman, Stan the Man, or any other bulls suitable for heifers.
 

Dan7626

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OK, an update, have bought a few in-calf stabiliser cows a few in-calf heifers and a couple of bulling heifers. First calved this week and hopefully a few more this month, all to be calved by end of May. Thinking of using Stabiliser AI on a few to get replacement cows and hoping to get updates here on how you all are getting on with Sportsman, Stan the Man, or any other bulls suitable for heifers.
We used Stan the man when we AI'd back last year. 17 out of 21 in calf. Just started calving and so far so good. Healthy strong calves, up and on their feet within 20 mins. We also by chance happened to go the farm that has Stan the man, a cracking looking bull with a fantastic temperament.
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Not wanting to breed replacements with the cows I have ( want to get rid of holstein and BB influences ). Thinking of buying in-calf stabilisers, keeping any heifer calves, ai heifers and some cows with sex semen sabiliser for replacements, put other cows to the charolais for stores.
I do a similar system here with Luings. AI every thing then an Angus Bull out, sell all the black calves at weaning and carry the rest through.
 
All the promotional material, talks, and farm visits seem to be herds of Stabiliser cows and Stabiliser bulls. The benefits of this combination is well documented.
But is anyone running a continental terminal bull, particularly thinking Charolais, with Stabiliser cows. Trying to get a guage of how this combination would work. My aim is good hardy efficient cows but need the Charolais to make it count in the sales ring.

Why do you need to take them to a sale ring ? I would sale if you try and sell stabiliser cross or not they don’t sell well in market at all people don’t seem to want to buy them. You can get people to fatten them for you instead Doug deer is a man will who will do this for you
 

Poorbuthappy

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
Also thinking on stan the man perhaps on cows but also thought he may be useful for heifers. Very interested how they calf for you.
@Jonny B88
Remembered I hadn't updated this since calving. Got 6 Stan the man calves running. (Lost 1 at 4 days old unexplainedly. :( Was born fine and sucked itself and was fine for first 3 days)
Birth weights have been maybe a kg or 2 heavier than my average - mostly low 40's.
All calved unassisted, though the 1 heifer that calved to him prolapsed after calving.

Some pics -
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Got my eye on the first 1 for a replacement stock bull. Here he is again.
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Jonny B88

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Location
ballykelly. NI
@Jonny B88
Remembered I hadn't updated this since calving. Got 6 Stan the man calves running. (Lost 1 at 4 days old unexplainedly. :( Was born fine and sucked itself and was fine for first 3 days)
Birth weights have been maybe a kg or 2 heavier than my average - mostly low 40's.
All calved unassisted, though the 1 heifer that calved to him prolapsed after calving.

Some pics -
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Got my eye on the first 1 for a replacement stock bull. Here he is again.
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Fantastic looking calves @Poorbuthappy ! Thanks for sharing. I have ended up bulling to Black Resolution only as straws were cheaper. Your results have made me think on stan the man possibly next year.
 

LFH7

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Location
Mid Wales
I have had 8 heifer calves and 3 bull calves, really happy with them. Seem to be growing well, oldest are only 7-8 weeks now. Just a little disappointed they are mostly grey, but then they are only 1st cross. Hopefully some photos attached.
They look some really smart Stan the man calves @Poorbuthappy
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