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It is a portmanteau, but I chose 'plan' rather than pleb; I invented it because I simply could not think of anything rational that rhymes or alliterates well with 'minion'.
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Everyday is a schoolday! Just looked it up,first used by Lewis Carroll in "Through the Looking Glass" who of course wrote Jabberwocky aswell,so i was not far off the mark.
Danllan
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That's the received wisdom, but I had an English master at school who disliked Carroll and was convinced that an English master from his schooldays had given him a much earlier - circa Shakespeare - example. However, much to his frustration, he could never recall or find it - he even offered a £10 prize to any boy that could identify it - which was a fair amount in the early 80s.
My understanding is that Carroll coined this use of the word 'portmanteau', but such words already existed, for example 'flare' = flame+glare was used from at least the mid 19th Century, well before Carroll's writing. But I can't find such a word that was labelled especially as being a construct...
caveman
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Could any of the above really compare to this man of understanding?
They are all full of nothing but false promises and their own importance.(Bullshite).
They are all full of nothing but false promises and their own importance.(Bullshite).
Hindsight
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Any body language experts on here care to comment on Mr Johnsons pose at this point in the TV debate?
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Hindsight
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Quite amazing that the You Gov Poll of Tory Party members indicates the membership is quite happy to destroy the UK economy and break up of the union to ensure leave the EU. Find it quite amazing what those late middle aged, white men and women, living primarily in the southern shires will do. And then there are some on here comment why there has to be these TV debates. Pretty important the rest of us have some future reference point to relate to when holding these Tories to account.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-poll-tory-members-uk-economy-scotland-northern-ireland-yougov-a8963391.html
All amazing stuff.
Hey ho.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-poll-tory-members-uk-economy-scotland-northern-ireland-yougov-a8963391.html
All amazing stuff.
Hey ho.
Well noted. And those Conservative Party members (who are going to be the ones who decide who 'rules' us) will all be well dead and buried pretty soon leaving next generations to suffer their misguided headlong rush back into the mis-remembered 50s and 60s.
Woolless
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Yup. So much for the Conservative and Unionist party. It seems to me it's heading more towards the English Nationalist party.
Danllan
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I guess the fact that the people you so denigrate built the country and have paid and still pay a disproportionate amount of tax to run it is neither here nor there, nor the fact that their views have been ignored or mocked. Liberal self-righteousness, always there to help us see things the 'right' way, it's simple priggishness and no more.
The truth is that the people questioned have more faith in the nation and their fellow-countrymen than you do, that they believe in its democracy and autonomy, which you don't, and that they don't whinge and fall to pieces when they don't get their own way...
I have no idea if you support the Liberals, Labour, the Greens or whichever other party, if any. But it is a stone cold certainty that any current 'alternative' to Conservative government will see the economy flattened or our democracy and sovereignty extinguished, or both.
Today is Wednesday June 19th 2019, once we are out of the EU and the economy is prospering and the doom and talking-down has been seen to be false prophesy, will you admit to being an hysterical ninny and wrong?
It is a quite remarkable thing what the EU has sought to do to this country, and others, viz break it up by regionalisation, subvert its democracy via diktat etc.. It's also remarkable what young brown men are doing to destroy this society, drugs, gangs, stabbings etc., but hey ho.
Danllan
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Presumably that means you are not a supporter of the Scottish National(ist) Party, nor of Plaid Cymru the party of Wales - more accurately 'a party in Wales'...
Woolless
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If the EU has tried to break the country up, it looks like the Tory party faithful are only too keen to help them.
Hindsight
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Sorry, touched a nerve!! I did not denigrate them or not my intention. Just found the You Gov result interesting.
And indeed we shall see how it turns out.
Bit disappointed by your last paragraph - does not become you. I find you eloquent and thoughtful posts very interesting. I have concluded your background and connections is totally different to mine and as such an interesting insight.
Best wishes,
Woolless
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No, I'm not an SNP supporter. I was a Tory voter but the way the party is moving leaves me very cold. I would think many Tories up here would think the same. Ruth Davidson has made a lot of good progress. Bojo's coronation will put a stop to that.
Danllan
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I have not seen the wording of the poll, and I don't know the break-down of the members asked so am unable to write with authority about the validity of the poll - although I will say that in many years of being a Tory member I can only think of a couple of individuals who thought like that. But I note that you have neither disputed the EU's intention nor come to the defence of the SNP and PC.
Woolless
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I'm not here to defend EU, SNP or PC. I'm here to express my own opinion, which appears to be moving very quickly away from that of the Tories.
Hindsight
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Oh and I should say (tongue in cheek as I seem to have rattled you!) that I take your point from the first paragraph and have just touched my forelock and doffed my cap to my betters who own, run and pay the country, Cheers.
Danllan
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No nerve touched, nor rattled either, I leave meltdowns to the liberal-left. Read your OP again. Forelock-tugging unnecessary, neither I nor they are lairds.
The last paragraph was written with a 'touch' of irony - the poll you quoted was 'interesting', fair enough, the EU's track record and criminal demographics are too.
We'll see... once the hysteria has died down.
wanton dwarf
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What a racist and ageist post.
What you neglect to face up to is millions of people have lost their jobs for decades thanks to self serving ideological Liberal nutters.
If you don't like the fact that those who have lost out value Liberal jobs as less than worthless .. you'll get given what you have dolled out in buckets and spades to everyone else.
I'll state this plainly .. the Tories are quite mild and Liberal compared to what I want to see happen.
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So to be clear, Brexit by any means on Halloween night is more important to theTories/Leavers than to retain the United Kingdom?
Scary!!
Woolless
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Correct. And they don't care about the economy either. Never mind, they'll make England great again and doubtless have another empire in short order!