What should I be charging per hour for tractor and man

cousinjack

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Cornwall
You enjoy driving tractors ?
I'd have to be paid a lot more than that to even think about driving one

Yes, I own tractors, am an arable farmer & have spent my whole adult life driving machinery
I still wouldnt say it was fun though . . .

Personally, I think I'd pay someone to let me spend the day driving a tractor , rather than doing all the management crap that I have to do these days !!
Give me my old fastrac back and I'd be happy as Larry !
 

Frankzy

Member
Location
Jamtland, Sweden
Yep, 0.25 to 0.3 m3 average tree size nearly 700 trees to get 200m3 per day... some pulp stems coming out at 0.09 to 0.15 m3 per tree :(:(:( not exactly perfect timber for a Waratah H290(n)
:eek:
That's the same average tree size as we go through with our Timberjack 1470 with a 758 4WD head and we routinely get close to 2m3/litre
Let me guess, it's a digger chassis rather than wheeled harvester?
 
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sawdust

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Location
Argyll
Ah, any particular reason for choosing a digger chassis over a regular harvester?
And whats the reason for delimbing the whole tree and then backing up? Ripping off bark?
Branches are tough to get off clean in a single pass, so easier to give it a clean first, it's mostly going for pulp anyway. (y) That was filmed in Dec17 @Badshot came all the way from the sunny climates of the bottom of Englandshire to our wee beautiful part of Scotland to get a shot of the harvester (y)(y)(y)
 

sawdust

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Location
Argyll
Amazing it doesn't tip!
:oops: Don't go there. :facepalm:



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Skimmer

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Mixed Farmer
Location
North Notts
I would always pay contractors a fair price
They have to make money out of the job as well, if they are good / I have a relationship with them, then I want them to still be around next year
There's an old saying
Good
Fast
Cheap

Take your pick of any two, but you won't get all three
Although I don't really contract out with a tractor many round here do for as little as £18/hr +fuel £25 would be a good rate, now many are beginning to realise and putting prices up, although farmers seem to be going back to doing everything in house.
 

Fendtbro

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The tractors has already earned its keep doing the other 300 hrs on the farm and I have no reason to expect a major breakdown. £6.66 doing something I enjoy is betting than doing nothing or doing something you don't like.
Famous last words! A bearing can fail any minute, with no warning.. chew a few gears and shafts, then lock up the whole transmission. Happens often. Easy to spend 10k sorting all the carnage out, Easy for mistakes to be made while repairing which results in further problems. Can result in machine having to be sold at a great loss.. Been there, done that..
 

Joe S

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Location
Orkney
Bit of a comment on this thread from me,
In construction groundwork,plant hire rates and agreements tend to be better with more professionalism attached, contractors are extremely trusting with agreeing rates verbally and farmers paying up agreed price,

What planet do you live on? Yes plant hire rates are a lot better but there still not as much as they really should be per hour? When a sparky or a Plummer are charging similar or very close too to what your getting for a 8 ton digger per hour?
Yes these is exceptions priced work etc but that’s a whole different ball game
 

nick...

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
south norfolk
What planet do you live on? Yes plant hire rates are a lot better but there still not as much as they really should be per hour? When a sparky or a Plummer are charging similar or very close too to what your getting for a 8 ton digger per hour?
Yes these is exceptions priced work etc but that’s a whole different ball game
I’d say plant rates are pretty poor too.mine need to go up by a fiver but there is allways someone cheaper.getting so I’ve nearly had enough after 30 plus years.
Nick...
 

Joe S

Member
Location
Orkney
I’d say plant rates are pretty poor too.mine need to go up by a fiver but there is allways someone cheaper.getting so I’ve nearly had enough after 30 plus years.
Nick...

8-10 on top of the rates would make it a lot more sensible. Folk are usually happy to pay a few quid more for a good job but I don’t think they would be impressed with it going up that much
 

nick...

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
south norfolk
Too many running machines far too cheap.heard of 13 tonners out at £25 hour including fuel.plenty of jobs about offering £18/20 hour to operate them too.hire companies don’t help letting machines out on self drive for peanuts either.im pretty certain you could hire a 13 ton machine for £400 a week too.plenty of firms hiring out 1.5 ton excavators for £130 week and dumpers for less than £100.impossible for owner ops to compete
Nick...
 

Joe S

Member
Location
Orkney
Too many running machines far too cheap.heard of 13 tonners out at £25 hour including fuel.plenty of jobs about offering £18/20 hour to operate them too.hire companies don’t help letting machines out on self drive for peanuts either.im pretty certain you could hire a 13 ton machine for £400 a week too.plenty of firms hiring out 1.5 ton excavators for £130 week and dumpers for less than £100.impossible for owner ops to compete
Nick...

25ph fuel supplied?[emoji15][emoji15]needs to be double that really!!
80 odd grand for a new 13/14 ton class machine last I heard
decent driver wants what 12-15 pph
Burning let’s say 6-10 litres pre hour roughly
Bit for service
Bit for wear on tracks/ buckets etc
Depression
Etc etc list goes on
What really annoys me is folk not charging for delivery of machine means the first days work is worth nothing because it’s paying for the machine getting there
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
25ph fuel supplied?[emoji15][emoji15]needs to be double that really!!
80 odd grand for a new 13/14 ton class machine last I heard
decent driver wants what 12-15 pph
Burning let’s say 6-10 litres pre hour roughly
Bit for service
Bit for wear on tracks/ buckets etc
Depression
Etc etc list goes on
What really annoys me is folk not charging for delivery of machine means the first days work is worth nothing because it’s paying for the machine getting there

What would a 13t slew with buckets cost new?
 

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