Putting up a dutch barn roof

Greenbeast

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I'm unsure about making sure the tops of the posts are positioned correctly, given the changing diameter over the length.
I'll have a fixed metal structure to attach at the top
 

br jones

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I'm unsure about making sure the tops of the posts are positioned correctly, given the changing diameter over the length.
I'll have a fixed metal structure to attach at the top
How many posts ? Dig your holes ,put posts in loose,fix 2 in on one side, fix upright with supports ie batten.drop the roof on ,bolt to top of posts level up the post concrete / backfill
 

Greenbeast

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Location
East Sussex
Ok so this is what we've ended up with, a canopy built by a company called Clovis Lande.
It has 7 arcs and is therefore a 6 bay structure. The ends are likely constructed and braced differently to the intermediate arcs, going by some promotional shots on their website.

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The main arcs are obvious and the two end arcs likely have these cross braces (1 per end)
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I have 14 of these, that are about 10' long and obviously have adjustable turnbuckles
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I have a large selection of different size of tubular pieces, some have flattened ends with a hole to accept a bolt and some are full bore and some have a reduced bore (to slot inside full bore)

If anyone has any insights into the construction i'd appreciate it. I will call the firm monday and see if they have historic assembly instructions that they can provide (they typically use approved installers and their products are made to measure, but i assume there are some bracing principles they use which are largely universal)
 
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tw15

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DORSET
I would be thinking about rsj for the posts and in the back of my mind I would think about location as in 20 years it might just lend itself for conversion into a dwelling for your little one .
If you think that it might just possibly be a option I would think about side cladding to help in any future ideas .
 

Greenbeast

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Location
East Sussex
I would be thinking about rsj for the posts and in the back of my mind I would think about location as in 20 years it might just lend itself for conversion into a dwelling for your little one .
If you think that it might just possibly be a option I would think about side cladding to help in any future ideas .

We bought telegraph poles to go with it.
That's not really in our minds, given that we don't even have permission to live here permanently yet!
The location is not optional as our cutting room and walk i freezer are sited already
 

tw15

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DORSET
So it could help more so then , planners don't like new houses but conversions /adaptions can be looked on more favourably . Good luck a I wish you success.
 

br jones

Member
Ok so this is what we've ended up with, a canopy built by a company called Clovis Lande.
It has 7 arcs and is therefore a 6 bay structure. The ends are likely constructed and braced differently to the intermediate arcs, going by some promotional shots on their website.

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The main arcs are obvious and the two end arcs likely have these cross braces (1 per end)
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I have 14 of these, that are about 10' long and obviously have adjustable turnbuckles
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I have a large selection of different size of tubular pieces, some have flattened ends with a hole to accept a bolt and some are full bore and some have a reduced bore (to slot inside full bore)

If anyone has any insights into the construction i'd appreciate it. I will call the firm monday and see if they have historic assembly instructions that they can provide (they typically use approved installers and their products are made to measure, but i assume there are some bracing principles they use which are largely universal)



I presume they are a cross bracing of sorts ,
 

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