- Location
- Darlington
very true, and I'm a cyclist. Some of them, sorry a lot of them, don't do themselves a lot of favours but there again neither do most other road users.
Cyclist, another close call today
- Thread starter hoff135
- Start date
Greater speed? They were doing about 15mph.
Some old guy could be out for a sunday run in his sports car and sitting at 45, see it all the time. Im sure he gets overtaken by plenty European hatchbacks. Are you saying they should stay behind?
Shep
Member
- Location
- The Orchard County
How do they have more right than a tractor? They have to be registered, insured, the driver has to be licensed and taxed in certain circumstances?Ahem. Slightly more right than tractors do. Tractors, like all other motorised vehicles are licenced to use the road, as are their drivers. Cycles, like horses and pedestrians, have a right to use the road.
Cycling and horse riding needs to be regulated like all other road users for their own and others safety. They are riding often in large blocks at quite fast speeds, it is obvious just by this forum alone that they are causing anxiety to other road users. Horses are worse as the rider often does not have full control and they are dealing with an animal with a mind of its own.
Everyone on the road needs to be covered and accountable.
Are we really being pedants to state that cyclists are going to go faster down hill than up hill?
Cyclists are generally annoying but predictable annoying, especially when it comes to speed relative incline/decline.
- Location
- Northumberland
I’ve been in a situation before where I’ve followed a cyclist for several minutes with a tractor. They were travelling slowly and I could easily overtake them had visibility and traffic allowed. During this time they passed at least one long lay-by which they could have eased over into, without slowing down to let me past but they did not do that. I eventually overtook them safely when I had good visibility just before the brow of a hill, as I could see over but they were still chugging slowly up the last bit of incline. As I went down the hill, they were looking to re-overtake me had not oncoming traffic prevented them. As I crested the next Hill, they were perhaps a third of the way up, probably half a mile behind me.
As a tractor driver, when I am on the roads I go out of my way to get out of the way of faster traffic; pulling over when possible or slowing to a crawl at the start of straights. I hope all tractor drivers do similarly and I cringe when a tractor with a tailback sails past a lay-by.
I guess the OP is in the wrong here, but it wouldn’t kill cyclists to have a bit of consideration for other road users (might just kill them if they don’t).
As a tractor driver, when I am on the roads I go out of my way to get out of the way of faster traffic; pulling over when possible or slowing to a crawl at the start of straights. I hope all tractor drivers do similarly and I cringe when a tractor with a tailback sails past a lay-by.
I guess the OP is in the wrong here, but it wouldn’t kill cyclists to have a bit of consideration for other road users (might just kill them if they don’t).
- Location
- Moreton-in-Marsh, Glos
Couldn’t agree more! The cyclists are definitely wrong to speed up while being overtaken, in just the same way as any motorist would be.
They do not do themselves any favours, do they?
Being in the Cotswolds, we have many cycle races here. I’ve never come across a more rude, inconsiderate and arrogant bunch of people on the roads. Racing cars or motorcycles is illegal on the roads. Why are cycle races any different?
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- Location
- Ceredigion
Most cyclists will do that downhill
I'm lucky I the roads are quiet around here. Avarage over 100 mile/week and always pull over rather than be a pain to someone but not so easily cyclyng down south on busy roads . If you pull over you all the time you would not get anywhere
Why do you need a jcb to do 40 k ?
On your bike Can you average 25 mph up hill and down dale?
If you are holding traffic up you should pull over whatever the vehicle.
Okay. Clearly we are never going to agree. Im the only one here that knows what happened.
What i was trying to establish is, is it wrong for a vehicle, or cyclist in this case to increase speed to prevent the overtaking vehicle from rejoining the correct side of the road.
It seems many people here think that is perfectly okay and i should have predicted they would have done this as we had all turned down a hill (only a slight hill by the way)
They knew i was overtaking, as my tractor was in front of them. But they continued to press on as hard as possible. How this would stand in court ive no idea. Glad i dont have to find out.
What i was trying to establish is, is it wrong for a vehicle, or cyclist in this case to increase speed to prevent the overtaking vehicle from rejoining the correct side of the road.
It seems many people here think that is perfectly okay and i should have predicted they would have done this as we had all turned down a hill (only a slight hill by the way)
They knew i was overtaking, as my tractor was in front of them. But they continued to press on as hard as possible. How this would stand in court ive no idea. Glad i dont have to find out.
- Location
- Ceredigion
The bottom bit should be printed clearly in the HWC .
- Location
- Ceredigion
The bottom bit should be printed clearly in the HWC .
I agree .
although the one sort of exception i can think of , that is when im trying really hard to not go over the speed limit and some bullying hero is right up behind not at all worried about the camera....
The Highway Code is not the law it is a guide to best practice. If it was the law you would be in the right.
unfortunately you should anticipate that other road users will not necessarily follow best practice.
Yes they would have been better to pull over, but realistically 99.9%of cyclists are never going to do that. Is it really surprising that they didn’t pull over and let you pass?
Simon Chiles
DD Moderator
- Location
- Surrey/ Kent Border, UK
I think this is actually the point, cycle racing and time trials should be banned on the public highway. It would sort out most, if not all, of the problems encountered between motorists and cyclists.
At no point did i expect anyone to pull over. Have you read my posts?
What i did not expect is to get into a drag race with them to see if they could keep me on the wrong side of the road, because thats what they were doing.
As far as i knew this kind of thing was illegal, but seems not.
- Location
- Bay of Plenty NZ
Tractors are a real menace on the roads, as are cyclists, putting the two together is a recipe for disaster.
devonbrion1998
Member
- Location
- Radnage Buckinhamshire
Sorry to say I don't think half of the folk have read your post clearly, just assuming and jumping to a conclusion,
- Location
- East meath/dublin
The way i read it hoff you only done what anyone would have done , try to pass a couple of jackasses on bikes who instead of showing a bit of courtsey and respect for other road users decided to put YOUR safety and their own at serious risk .
Everybody has an opinion but can anyone say if it was them driving the tractor and plough the would have played it is different ? An artic on your tail as well just to complicate matters. No disrespect to exfarmer or other than bikies on here but some of your fellow cyclists are total tossers and should be held to account .
Pour your self a stiff drink hoff and forget it thank your lucky stars it didnt end badly .
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