- Location
- Near Derby
You will be wanting fertiliser and agri chemicals taxed next. We pay too much tax now and that is wasted, are you a friend of Comrade McDonnell?
Seed and Fertiliser bag size poll
- Thread starter snarling bee
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You will be wanting fertiliser and agri chemicals taxed next. We pay too much tax now and that is wasted, are you a friend of Comrade McDonnell?
pine_guy
Member
- Location
- North Cumbria
So what went wrong with the fibreglass fert bins for bulk delivery of my youth?
ollie989898
Member
I don't see why you would want to pish about with fertiliser in bags. It's dusty, it's a PITA to handle and store and then you have to dispose of the bags. And who the hell wants a pyramid of hundreds of bags of fertiliser in a building? It's a fire hazard nightmare and it takes up a lot of space, not to mention lumps and the odd damaged bag which is near inevitable.
No thank you, I'd sooner avoid the need for a fertiliser spreader and just pump it into the sprayer keeping my hands clean. And P and K is readily replaced by bulk muck, slurry or products like fibrophos. Invest the money in a top notch sprayer and use that instead for the liquid.
No thank you, I'd sooner avoid the need for a fertiliser spreader and just pump it into the sprayer keeping my hands clean. And P and K is readily replaced by bulk muck, slurry or products like fibrophos. Invest the money in a top notch sprayer and use that instead for the liquid.
It was through Barts if I remember correctly, the little tractor did most of the unloading on just two wheels!!
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Always stipulate ton bags here,fert and seed,but it just gets dropped into a high lift trailer to make dispensing the drill/spreader easier, safer, quicker.
Ton bags stack way easier.
I see in USA they use tote bins for corn seed,
I'd be happy to use them here for seed,then return back.
Ton bags stack way easier.
I see in USA they use tote bins for corn seed,
I'd be happy to use them here for seed,then return back.
- Location
- Darlington
I would like to get some of my agrochemicals in bulk too. Trouble is 1000l ibcs are often to big but a 500 or 250 would be ideal and hopefully more easy to return. I hate gathering empty Seed and fert bags up
kiwi pom
Member
- Location
- canterbury NZ
pine_guy
Member
- Location
- North Cumbria
So how is your fert delivered and stored in bulk then? Sounds like we have something to learn.I was going to ask, what's a fert bag?
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
It's basically all bulk, here.
Some dairies will use a silo on a stand for urea, probably 20 tonne capacity but it's expensive to get them filled, by comparison to bulk. Bags incur bagging charges and waste, as I posted above.
We have a bagging plant for farmers to bag their own fert, for drilling - just scoop up with the loader and tip it in the hopper.
Most little rural towns have a fert depot, ours has 2x 4 bay sheds, each bay will hold around 130 tonne of super, and a couple of outside bays for mixing different mixes.
Some local farmers will come in to the depot, others have a fert shed, and the other half get us in with the bulkies (4x4 truck with a spreader bin on) or use the plane.
Helicopter spreading, they have a little tractor with a custom bucket and onboard scales, which we just fill via the graindoor (with the hoist up a bit) same as you'd feed a grain auger.
Some dairies will use a silo on a stand for urea, probably 20 tonne capacity but it's expensive to get them filled, by comparison to bulk. Bags incur bagging charges and waste, as I posted above.
We have a bagging plant for farmers to bag their own fert, for drilling - just scoop up with the loader and tip it in the hopper.
Most little rural towns have a fert depot, ours has 2x 4 bay sheds, each bay will hold around 130 tonne of super, and a couple of outside bays for mixing different mixes.
Some local farmers will come in to the depot, others have a fert shed, and the other half get us in with the bulkies (4x4 truck with a spreader bin on) or use the plane.
Helicopter spreading, they have a little tractor with a custom bucket and onboard scales, which we just fill via the graindoor (with the hoist up a bit) same as you'd feed a grain auger.
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
We still do a handful of seed orders in 25kgs but the plant doesn't like doing it because of the extra time and hassle. So it costs more per tonne and usually needs to be ordered well in advance of processing. Other than that we do both 1 tonne and 500kgs bags. Not sure of the split but at a guess it is 85% - 90% in 500kgs bags. France is all on 600kgs or 25kgs, nothing bigger.
farmerm
Member
- Location
- Shropshire
500/600kgs for us smaller guys. They are plenty enough for a tractor loader operating in a field, it is also plenty enough weight to carry in a combination drill which weights plenty enough when empty! You big boys are surely better going liquid fert?
There are lots of threads on liquid vs solid fertiliser. For the smaller grower at narrower spreading widths cheaper urea and blends are well worth it. Liquid comes with it's own issues e.g. sprayer build & capacity, storage tank requirement, scorch etc. @ollie989898 You've clearly never used liquid fertiliser! Evil stuff that eats steel. You'll find that most liquid users still have a spinner as that's the way to apply decent amounts of P and K that are largely insoluble in liquid N. At wider boom widths solid product choice becomes less for even spreading so you're paying Nitram prices for liquid. An already busy sprayer won't have the time to do liquid applications too - logistics need thinking about.
kiwi pom
Member
- Location
- canterbury NZ
Off the boat into bulk trucks that tip into stores. Farmers then arrange transport to the farm or the spreader truck and trailer bring it with them.
Some arable farms will have a shed to store it then take it to the field in a truck or tractor and trailer and tip it straight in the spreader off a loading ramp.
pine_guy
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- Location
- North Cumbria
If I sat my nitrogen in a shed in this climate, I think it would set solid in no time.
So do most people use a contractor to spread? What happens if you only want to spread a small acreage, say following a grazing heard?
- Location
- Darlington
Seed bag storage time, this seems to be the best way to keep our little furry friends away
kiwi pom
Member
- Location
- canterbury NZ
Don't know for sure but I think they just book the truck in as often as they need it and just pay for what's spread. A lot of dairy farms would use contractors.
Mostly large herds around here so there can be a fair bit to do each visit.
@Kiwi Pete would be the man in the know with that.
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
Only 1 tonne bulka bags available here for seed or fert . . .
Then 40 kg fert bags ( much more expensive /kg )
Or seed in 40 or 20 kg
No tickbox for 56 lbs bags I see.....
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
Like @Kiwi Pete says - most fert here is bulk anyway, only a relatively small % would be bagged . . .