New trailer

haybob

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Livestock Farmer
Does my head in thinking. I like the idea of the lower ramp and stability with outer wheels but concerned about father clicking a gate post with them!
 
Thinking about getting a new livestock box, currently have a Graham Edwards there local which is a plus, but the decks are a bit numb. Thinking of ifor or nugent as a change what's people's thoughts?
I bought a new ifor 14ft sent it back afyer 1 day, was made of cheap crap, nothing fitted correctly section gates didnt fit , floor was not secured correctly and felt like it waoyld fall to bits in 5 mins.
 

haybob

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Livestock Farmer
I bought a new ifor 14ft sent it back afyer 1 day, was made of cheap crap, nothing fitted correctly section gates didnt fit , floor was not secured correctly and felt like it waoyld fall to bits in 5 mins.
It’s a shame when I have a ifor dealer 5 mins away. I also like the look of Nugent . I just hate travelling far when buying kit. It’s just easy to pop back if there is any warranty issue and easy to take trade in stuff Without spending half a day travelling.
 

Green farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Was looking at the roof of my 1 year old ifor the other day. Could see small bits of rust where a joint wasn’t properly siliconed. Disappointing to see short cuts taken. Only thing about them is (around here anyway), is they’re arguably the easiest trailer to sell on afterwards. Every dealer is willing to take them in. Was talking to a lad on another forum, who had trailer made by one of the smaller manufacturers, who make really good trailers. Couldn’t find a dealer to take it.
 
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neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Was looking at the roof of my 1 year old ifor the other day. Could see small bits of rust where a joint wasn’t properly siliconed. Disappointing to see short cuts taken. Only thing about them is (around here anyway), is they’re arguably the easiest trailer to sell on afterwards. Every dealer is willing to take them in. Was talking to a lad on another forum, who had trailer made by one of the smaller manufacturers, who make really good trailers. Couldn’t find a dealer to take it.

There’s the dilemma. Do you buy a trailer that needs to have a good resale value, as you know you’ll have to trade it in for new after 3 years? Or do you buy a better built trailer that will last a lot longer anyway, negating the need to trade it in so soon?

My Gamic is now 7 years old and I’m probably going to replace the brake shoes this winter as the rest of the trailer is as sound as when I bought it. Was rarely a consideration on the Ifors we used to have....
 

Danllan

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Location
Sir Gar / Carms
There are some bl**dy awful Ifors about but, to be fair, I have a four year old 12ft TA510 and it seems fine. No problems with anything structural at all; the galvanising, welds, bolts etc. are all as good as new. Only one complaint, and that's the electrics, a) I am certain that the fuse board has been mislabelled, b) there has been a bit of shorting a few times, and c) there is some bad corrosion on connectors.

As for the rest, it's fine with the cattle and the dual deck and easy ramp are good for the sheep and easy to use - barring one cull who took advantage of the height the ramp offered last week and, astonishingly, entirely cleared the race hurdle from it and made it into the yard! There is always one... :mad:
 

Green farmer

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Livestock Farmer
There’s the dilemma. Do you buy a trailer that needs to have a good resale value, as you know you’ll have to trade it in for new after 3 years? Or do you buy a better built trailer that will last a lot longer anyway, negating the need to trade it in so soon?

My Gamic is now 7 years old and I’m probably going to replace the brake shoes this winter as the rest of the trailer is as sound as when I bought it. Was rarely a consideration on the Ifors we used to have....

When I was buying last year, I choose the 8x5 ifor with fold down flap. A easy trailer to sell. Didn’t bother spending the extra grand on decks, Did it last time and it wasn’t worth a cent more then the non deck option, when resold. Will keep it 5 years, trade it in and go again. Will probably cost €1,500 to upgrade at the time. Hard to beat that on value. Are there better trailers out there ? Definitely yes, but hard to get anything that will depreciate as little. Most trailers are the same under the skin these days anyway. All use the same running gear. I tow it with my diesal saloon car, so cheap as chips on diesal as well. It’s all a humble sheep farmer can afford anyway.
 

JP1

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Livestock Farmer
When I was buying last year, I choose the 8x5 ifor with fold down flap. A easy trailer to sell. Didn’t bother spending the extra grand on decks, Did it last time and it wasn’t worth a cent more then the non deck option, when resold. Will keep it 5 years, trade it in and go again. Will probably cost €1,500 to upgrade at the time. Hard to beat that on value. Are there better trailers out there ? Definitely yes, but hard to get anything that will depreciate as little. Most trailers are the same under the skin these days anyway. All use the same running gear. I tow it with my diesal saloon car, so cheap as chips on diesal as well. It’s all a humble sheep farmer can afford anyway.
I'm sure that's a very good choice for you and I bet you're right on the smaller trailers ref no deck resale value. I bet it does make a difference on bigger trailers

A Neville Porter built trailer is certainly not the same as an Ifor though. I know which I'd take any day
 

haybob

Member
Livestock Farmer
There are some bl**dy awful Ifors about but, to be fair, I have a four year old 12ft TA510 and it seems fine. No problems with anything structural at all; the galvanising, welds, bolts etc. are all as good as new. Only one complaint, and that's the electrics, a) I am certain that the fuse board has been mislabelled, b) there has been a bit of shorting a few times, and c) there is some bad corrosion on connectors.

As for the rest, it's fine with the cattle and the dual deck and easy ramp are good for the sheep and easy to use - barring one cull who took advantage of the height the ramp offered last week and, astonishingly, entirely cleared the race hurdle from it and made it into the yard! There is always one... :mad:
I’ve just got same as you today. It has 6.50 r16 tyres fitted. I’ve noticed this isn’t the most common tyre on Ifor TAs . Wondering what tyre pressure wants to be ?
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
I’ve just got same as you today. It has 6.50 r16 tyres fitted. I’ve noticed this isn’t the most common tyre on Ifor TAs . Wondering what tyre pressure wants to be ?
No idea off the top of my head, I just look at what it says on the tyre-wall and usually, depending on the load, take one or two psi off for stability.

While on the subject of tyres / wheels, two things come to mind. First, there is a very small gap between the top of the tyres and mudguards, and several times I have found a stick or bit of stone very firmly wedged in it - no problems caused that I have seen but, still, not ideal.

Second, and you may know this already, but a really good bit of kit to have with a twin axle trailer is one of these (but shop around, some prices asked are extortionate):

838747
 

JP1

Member
Livestock Farmer
No idea off the top of my head, I just look at what it says on the tyre-wall and usually, depending on the load, take one or two psi off for stability.

While on the subject of tyres / wheels, two things come to mind. First, there is a very small gap between the top of the tyres and mudguards, and several times I have found a stick or bit of stone very firmly wedged in it - no problems caused that I have seen but, still, not ideal.

Second, and you may know this already, but a really good bit of kit to have with a twin axle trailer is one of these (but shop around, some prices asked are extortionate):

View attachment 838747
Is that instead of a jack?
 

Green farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Certainly easier than pulling the front wheel of the trailer onto the nearest handy bit of wood I guess, but i’m Guessing it's a Bit dearer?

If you remembered to keep a piece of wood with you, or where you broke down. Wouldn’t like to be searching for one at the side of a motorway.
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
Certainly easier than pulling the front wheel of the trailer onto the nearest handy bit of wood I guess, but i’m Guessing it's a Bit dearer?
I got mine for about £30 a few years ago which, having now used it and despite it just being a bit of plastic with some bolts in it, I think is a bargain. I've not had to use it more than a few times, I keep good tyres :angelic:, but you just know that when you have to change one it will be p!ssing down and / on an A road with nowhere to pull in etc.... and that is when the convenience of this comes into its own - because it's quicker, easier and more stable than a jack. (y)
 

hally

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
cumbria
£55 at our local ifor dealer
Thinking I might get one having had a puncture on the m6 this summer with my caravan on a seriously wet day
Anything to make changing a tyre easier, faster and safer on a motorway must be worth 55 quid
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
Certainly be easier than finding bits of old post and rail in the hedge on the side of the A5 ?
We've all been there...

£55 at our local ifor dealer
Thinking I might get one having had a puncture on the m6 this summer with my caravan on a seriously wet day
Anything to make changing a tyre easier, faster and safer on a motorway must be worth 55 quid
Take a squint at ebay.
 

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