Bossfarmer
Member
- Location
- between Perth and Inverness
Thought u no till guys ploughed every so often to get rid of weeds, called it resetting?
Wet conditions direct drilling option
- Thread starter Clive
- Start date
- Location
- Lincolnshire
I might be being a bit thick but why is a tine drill any better than a lightweight disc drill. If its kind ground, i rarely find that the unidrill smears the slot and the discs and coulters keep reasonably clean if you maintain a decent speed. The unidrill disc works deeper than the tine coulter part leaving a bit of margin for drainage.
If I didn't have sticky clay I would be cracking on with the unidrill on untouched light soils. With a bit of trash about, the press wheels wont squeeze the living daylights out of it or cap it either.
I cant see a tine drill doing any good at all on clay. A smeared seed slot and big twirls of butter or clods more like. And then there are the tractor wheelings. At one time an MF165 was considereda heavy drilling tractor. Now folks think nothing of going on with a 300 hp monster that weighs more than a road roller. I'd also slug pellet before drilling. Have seen seed hollowed overnight before now in bad conditions.
Anyway, enough of that and I hope it works.
If I didn't have sticky clay I would be cracking on with the unidrill on untouched light soils. With a bit of trash about, the press wheels wont squeeze the living daylights out of it or cap it either.
I cant see a tine drill doing any good at all on clay. A smeared seed slot and big twirls of butter or clods more like. And then there are the tractor wheelings. At one time an MF165 was considereda heavy drilling tractor. Now folks think nothing of going on with a 300 hp monster that weighs more than a road roller. I'd also slug pellet before drilling. Have seen seed hollowed overnight before now in bad conditions.
Anyway, enough of that and I hope it works.
I find a disc can smear when (very) wet on our soil type
bit mostly I’ve done this with tines because I have a lightweight tine toolbar but not a lightweight disc toolbar to choose from right now and did want to go out and buy anything
- Location
- Lincs / Cambs border
I’m thinking of having a go at some wheat on untouched bean land with the KV turbo/ sabre tine drill we use for winter beans . 200mm row spacing .
- Location
- E Yorks
All the ingenious devices are coming out the woodwork. This is why I like the forum it highlights what a creative bunch farmers are, and have an amazing ability to think on there feet when the chips are down and also how there is no one right answer.
- Location
- Worcestershire
Looks the best all weather made drill yet
- Location
- northumberland
surely if its too wet for the avatar you'd be better off keeping the seed in the bag 
its called the defeat or destroy option.... reset makes it sound better...
Spencer
Member
- Location
- North West
Can imagine a 12m Avatar is a weighty beast....
Can imagine a 12m Avatar is a weighty beast....
Around the 11t mark when empty. However when in work that weight is spread across the coulter bar, it’s only on the wheels fully when turning on headlands.
Speedstar
Member
- Location
- Scottish Borders
I know of one big out fit in this area that put a lot of wheat in to bad wet seed beds back in 2012 , they had to resow over 1000 acres in the spring, first thing they did was to sell the drill that they used to sow it and if it is wet now it is cheaper to buy their men plane ticket and send them on holiday ,
How much is a drill as above, new ????
- Location
- Lincolnshire
I'll confess, I normally direct drill, but I bought a plough, a power harrow and an MF30 when the wet weather started. Not for huge money. This will be easy I thought. But it didn't stop raining and
now its so wet here that they are staying in the shed for the time being. There is a limit.
Wish I hadn't changed horses, but good luck and respect to those still trying.
now its so wet here that they are staying in the shed for the time being. There is a limit.
Wish I hadn't changed horses, but good luck and respect to those still trying.
Can imagine a 12m Avatar is a weighty beast....
most direct drills need weight in more usual conditions so that's no bad thing, its travels lighter than the 750a did I think - neither of any use here under current soil conditions though
looks ideal for wet conditions if you have to - if I had such a thing I would be using that rather than the CO toolbar
- Location
- Lincs / Cambs border
With a decent front hopper the options for the coulters are endless and can often be put together quite cheaply.
- Location
- Hammerwich
Tactical tillage I think that is called when page of a regime. I've heard blackgrass guys call it the reset button.