Warp Land Farmer
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- Hazzard County
Build your own tine drill?
Strip till versus no till
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With what, give us some ideas please.
Warp Land Farmer
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- Location
- Hazzard County
On 12.5 cm now on Amazon rotec
- Location
- Lincolnshire
@Brisel A quick question you might know is why do Claydon drills take so much hp,got the option of a used tool bar with front hopper and they tell me I need 200hp on the front,the machine has only got 14 tines.
Also what are they like for drilling OSR probably the main job for the above machine.
Had a Claydon sermon on Friday making me interested.
I've hopefully got a 6m Claydon Hybrid coming on demo if it will stay dry for long enough which will be interesting in OSR stubble,lots of volunteer OSR at a 1' high in places I've been told it will drill it due to having a front discs,but what you are saying it could be interesting.
What Claydon are you running.
Also what are they like for drilling OSR probably the main job for the above machine.
Had a Claydon sermon on Friday making me interested.
I've hopefully got a 6m Claydon Hybrid coming on demo if it will stay dry for long enough which will be interesting in OSR stubble,lots of volunteer OSR at a 1' high in places I've been told it will drill it due to having a front discs,but what you are saying it could be interesting.
What Claydon are you running.
Warp Land Farmer
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- Hazzard County
What width do you want the drill coulters set at?
SilliamWhale
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I don't want to persuade you one way or another on drill choice but I don't think that is a correct analysis
SilliamWhale
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Oh FFS someone had to point that out...!
How could I forget to add such a drill to the list. I didn’t think I’d thought of them all.
SilliamWhale
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I would just keep some cultivation kit and do what is needed but keep in mind the roots need to fund the cultivation side of things
Who gave the sermon? The man himself? That looks like a SR toolbar. Not much different to a Hybrid but the leading legs are different.
Horsepower requirement? At least 50 hp/m on light land. I have 370hp on 6m and needed every single horse last week putting beans 4" into clay cap soils with the 1" wide leading leg in 6" deep. Look at your stubble cultivator and count the legs on it. That's a lot of steel in the ground. Not sure what the spacing is on that SR toolbar. The Hybrids have an odd number to help with a straight pull on autosteer. 9 on 3m, 13 on 4m, 15 on 4.8m and 19 on 6m. Ok, so on well structured soils with the legs 4" deep on spring barley the Autopower tractor revs die back but any kind of clay or slope and it pulls harder. What have you got for the 6m demo? A trailed one?
You can swap the leading leg for a disc which will slice trash well but it will put a lot of strain on the coulter leg. I'd only advise that on soil that is very well structured otherwise you'll be walking fields looking for snapped off legs.
If you fancy a look at mine, you're always welcome down here.
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Most of the disc drills are 16.6 cm spacing. The Dale can be set to 12.5cm but this compromises trash flow.
What if the OP wishes to continue growing roots in the rotation?
- Location
- Lincolnshire
@Brisel
Sharmans have taken on the franchise,and the sales reps have been down and had a look at what Claydons have managed to achieve on their own farm and they were all very impressed,the guys at Sharmans know I need to change things but I'm. not to sure which way to jump.
I do have sugar beet but its mainly grown on the heathland which is very forgiving,but that doesn't fit with DD'ing.
Thats the main reason at looking at strip till,some where in between.
They have a 6m trailed hybrid which will come with a 7310R on the front,I don't think they have done many demos this back end for some reason????????????????????
Thanks for the invite,I might take you up on that when I get a bit quieter ?
Sharmans have taken on the franchise,and the sales reps have been down and had a look at what Claydons have managed to achieve on their own farm and they were all very impressed,the guys at Sharmans know I need to change things but I'm. not to sure which way to jump.
I do have sugar beet but its mainly grown on the heathland which is very forgiving,but that doesn't fit with DD'ing.
Thats the main reason at looking at strip till,some where in between.
They have a 6m trailed hybrid which will come with a 7310R on the front,I don't think they have done many demos this back end for some reason????????????????????
Thanks for the invite,I might take you up on that when I get a bit quieter ?
The T6C has a smaller hopper than the regular T6. My mounted 6m Hybrid has a tiny hopper barely able to hold a tonne. I'd go for the bigger one if you can - easier to put less bags in than regret not buying the right size when you start. I'd say 310hp is at the bottom end of the scale for a drill like that. Your stronger land will have that on its knees, especially on slopes. I'm sure the heath will be easier.
A day with Jeff Claydon at his place will be good, though he's a very good salesman, so leave your chequebook at home! Best to go and talk to other users on similar farms to your own IMO.
A day with Jeff Claydon at his place will be good, though he's a very good salesman, so leave your chequebook at home! Best to go and talk to other users on similar farms to your own IMO.
@Bill Turtle has planted wheat after beet with a claydon with good success I believe.
@Daniel too
I wouldn't want to run a Claydon directly into deep ruts left by a beet gang as seed depth will be very uneven. The coulters are fixed, not floating - if you're looking at a Claydon, forget about even seed depth unless you're drilling into a billiard table flat field.
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- E Yorks
that toolbar is an SR as mentioned above and the man who can tell you everything about it is Mathew Bowe who now works at Claydons he operated that particular unit when it was new in a previous job so is the only man fully qualified to tell you what it can achieve and can’t.