Calf broken front leg above knee chances?

Farmer Fin

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and a licence would change what exactly

I’m not the one saying about the licence. Merely pointing out the majority of a farmers livestock or facilities may not be fully seen as often as you claim.

Even then on a full herd annual TB test seen plenty of horror shows.

There are plenty of farms in Scotland that don’t even have a tb test due to exemptions if selling fat.
 

Cripper

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On grazing livestock farms vets are going the same way as farm workers.
I’m not the one saying about the licence. Merely pointing out the majority of a farmers livestock or facilities may not be fully seen as often as you claim.

Even then on a full herd annual TB test seen plenty of horror shows.

There are plenty of farms in Scotland that don’t even have a tb test due to exemptions if selling fat.
Fabbl inspect the facilities and some animals. Trading standards do look at a few animals. Basically many especially tenant grazing livestock farmers cant afford farm workers anymore much less the income expectations of farm vets. The plan after brexit is more subsidised tree planting on marginal land so there wont be much grazing livestock left anyway
 

som farmer

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somerset
well down here, it wouldn't apply, all our cattle are seen by a vet very regularly, it's called TB testing.
But the post is about how you treat an injured animal, in your care. Which can cause all sorts of problems.
One could be simply for putting an animal down, for what, in the non farming brigade, is a relatively 'minor' injury, or being cruel, for letting it suffer ! It's not so much as what we do, but about peoples perception, of what we do. My view is simple, anything over 2/3 months would get a lead injection, by me, when discovered, anything under might get a chance, younger the better, splint, vet wrap, and Metacam, and a very close watch ! I have had the min vet here, over public complaints, it is not nice, I wasn't being cruel, and nothing wrong, what so ever, was found, but they kept coming back, to 'check' for best part of 2 years, every time also a records check as well, nothing wrong on anything at all. In the end, I challenged them, turns out, I was an easy inspection, they knew there would be nothing wrong !!!
My neighbour had a calf, that was 'trampled' at a young age, was treated, splinted, and bandaged, got over all that, but on removal of splints, his front toes/hooves faced different way's, and a hind leg was a little bit awry, watching it walk, was somewhat amusing, he killed it at 27 months for his freezer, but the locals used to walk out to see it, no complaints !
 

Highland Mule

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As i understand it they do ar is it a very long process to the finish from the start of the prosecuting.

Animals and general farm with livestock would be often enough visited by inspections, tb testing and various other vetinary call out through out a year so in general all should be acceptable to standard i would have thought most would be caught if failing on a duty of care to animals point of view.

wrong again if you keep cattle you see the vet and the ministry regularly

I can go many months, sometimes over a year without seeing a vet, and have only once had a visit from the ministry inspection in the last decade - to check lamb tags, and they didn’t go near my cattle.

No TB testing whatsoever as enough cattle finished and checked at abattoir for me to get a full exemption.
No other checks.
Vet rarely needed, and usually would take any ill sheep to the surgery.
 
I can go many months, sometimes over a year without seeing a vet, and have only once had a visit from the ministry inspection in the last decade - to check lamb tags, and they didn’t go near my cattle.

No TB testing whatsoever as enough cattle finished and checked at abattoir for me to get a full exemption.
No other checks.

Vet rarely needed, and usually would take any ill sheep to the surgery.
Where are you?how does that work?
 

Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
Where are you?how does that work?


Scotland
Scotland has been designated officially TB free (OTF) since September 2009. As a result, changes were introduced to exempt low risk herds from the default routine testing regime of 48 months that applies to all other non-exempt herds.

Low risk herds must fully comply with one of the following:

  • herds with fewer than 50 cattle which have had fewer than 2 consignments of cattle moved on from high incidence TB areas (including Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland) in the previous 4 years
  • herds that slaughter more than 25% of their stock annually and have had fewer than 2 consignments of cattle moved on from high incidence TB areas (including Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland) in the previous 4 years
  • herds that slaughter more than 40% of their stock annually
Slaughtered animals are animals that have been on the holding for at least 60 days and that move either direct from the farm to slaughterhouse, or directly from the farm to market and then directly to the slaughterhouse.

It does not include animals moving onto another holding temporarily between market and slaughterhouse.

The slaughter rate is calculated on the total number of cattle slaughtered in a slaughterhouse in the previous calendar year divided by the herd size (total stock on farm on 1 January).

APHA annually assesses each individual herd’s eligibility for exemption from TB testing, and will write to all cattle keepers in Scotland to confirm whether or not their herd is exempt.

See the Scotland TB testing intervals list (PDF, 60.5KB, 22 pages) .
 

Scotland
Scotland has been designated officially TB free (OTF) since September 2009. As a result, changes were introduced to exempt low risk herds from the default routine testing regime of 48 months that applies to all other non-exempt herds.

Low risk herds must fully comply with one of the following:

  • herds with fewer than 50 cattle which have had fewer than 2 consignments of cattle moved on from high incidence TB areas (including Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland) in the previous 4 years
  • herds that slaughter more than 25% of their stock annually and have had fewer than 2 consignments of cattle moved on from high incidence TB areas (including Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland) in the previous 4 years
  • herds that slaughter more than 40% of their stock annually
Slaughtered animals are animals that have been on the holding for at least 60 days and that move either direct from the farm to slaughterhouse, or directly from the farm to market and then directly to the slaughterhouse.

It does not include animals moving onto another holding temporarily between market and slaughterhouse.

The slaughter rate is calculated on the total number of cattle slaughtered in a slaughterhouse in the previous calendar year divided by the herd size (total stock on farm on 1 January).

APHA annually assesses each individual herd’s eligibility for exemption from TB testing, and will write to all cattle keepers in Scotland to confirm whether or not their herd is exempt.

See the Scotland TB testing intervals list (PDF, 60.5KB, 22 pages) .
Wish the welsh government useless tw@s would think a bit like that
I slaughter 100%in 12 month
 

wdah/him

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tyrone
I can go many months, sometimes over a year without seeing a vet, and have only once had a visit from the ministry inspection in the last decade - to check lamb tags, and they didn’t go near my cattle.

No TB testing whatsoever as enough cattle finished and checked at abattoir for me to get a full exemption.
No other checks.
Vet rarely needed, and usually would take any ill sheep to the surgery.


never knew that, would you not even have a quality assurance inspection?
 
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