Weaving gd drill

benny6910

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Arable Farmer

• Jan 1, 2020

• #1

Please be gentle with me as I am not a direct driller but have been looking into the options and I quite like the look of the weaving gd. Would this drill still work on sumo’ed land or do they need a firm surface to work on? Just wondering as I’ve got 50% sumo’ed ground and 50% lightly cultivated land to attempt to drill this spring

 

yellow belly

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Location

south west lincolnshire

• Jan 1, 2020

• #2

Used a gd on cultivated land in the autumn a few years ago was too wet and left the surface too loose and could not roll slugs murdered the crop

In the spring if the land has settled down should be ok you may need to roll after
be careful with the depth setting and don’t go to fast for the depth you set

now I only notill

 

clbarclay

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Location

Worcestershire

• Jan 1, 2020

• #3

I haven't tried my GD on cultivated ground, but I recall the manual for the Moore unidrill strongly recommending rolling cultivated ground first.

 

benny6910

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Arable Farmer

• Jan 1, 2020

• #4

Ok thanks both of you for the information. Maybe it’s not the best drill for me to try out then. A local contractor has a 750a so I might get him to try a bit instead.

 

clbarclay

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Location

Worcestershire

• Jan 1, 2020

• #5

I suspect all low disturbance drills will have the same issue if the cultivated ground needs consolidation across the full width.

 

clbarclay

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Location

Worcestershire

• Jan 1, 2020

• #6

The unidrill worked reasonably well on cultivated ground without rolling before, but my soils are not the light fluffy type.

 

AF Salers

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BASE UK Member

Location

York, UK

• Jan 1, 2020

• #7

Assuming the sumo had a packer roller on the back you should be fine drilling into that ground, especially after the rain this backend as it will have settled it down a lot. The main thing with any DD is to have level & smooth ground to drill into to help maintain constant seed depth. I do quite a bit of drilling up your way with my 750a. Feel free to message me if you would like a chat through anything.

 

Deutzdx3

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• Jan 1, 2020

• #8

Think the 750 would work better on cultivated land, the GD having an angled seed slot wheel I think limits it to uncultivated land only really. The 750a is verticals so may work ok.

 

tr250

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Location

Northants

• Jan 1, 2020

• #9

We drill into cultivated soil with ours and it does a very good job into anything that is level. I’ve not had the issues as we are on clay but stoney soil in the wet the first row of coulters with throw stones off the tyres into the second rows discs causing them to stall. One of the most universal drills about I would say

 

Will Blackburn

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Location

Cheshire

• Jan 1, 2020

• #10

I’ve used my 750 on cultivated puff, there was like a bow wave of soil in the lightest bits but it managed.

 

jimmyriddle

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Location

Boston, Lincolnshire

• Jan 2, 2020

• #11

I have owned a weaving big disc in the past and it was no good on light cultivated silt, the silt gets between the discs and slows them down or blocks them entirely.
If it just slows them down you will find you pull a wave of soil with you.
The scrapers couldn't stop the silt because you could never set them fine enough and when pulling a wave it used to go over the top of the disc...

 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer

Location

Midlands

• Jan 2, 2020

• #12

benny6910 said:

Please be gentle with me as I am not a direct driller but have been looking into the options and I quite like the look of the weaving gd. Would this drill still work on sumo’ed land or do they need a firm surface to work on? Just wondering as I’ve got 50% sumo’ed ground and 50% lightly cultivated land to attempt to drill this spring

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Yes, it should work but it really depends on what the conditions are. Keep the coulter pressure and forward speed down. The winter rain should have pushed the soil back down so will be firmer on top. It's not the best drill for cultivated ground but set carefully will do the job. Other no till disc drills like the Avatar and 750A will have better depth control. Most no till drills will need a firm surface to work better in as that's what they were designed for but most have variable coulter pressure.

 

benny6910

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Arable Farmer

• Jan 2, 2020

• #13

Brisel said:

Yes, it should work but it really depends on what the conditions are. Keep the coulter pressure and forward speed down. The winter rain should have pushed the soil back down so will be firmer on top. It's not the best drill for cultivated ground but set carefully will do the job. Other no till disc drills like the Avatar and 750A will have better depth control. Most no till drills will need a firm surface to work better in as that's what they were designed for but most have variable coulter pressure.

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Thanks for that, it’s maybe not the drill for me then. I had a idea about putting a low disturbance toolbar in front of one to get a little 1 pass subsoil/ drill combi but that may not work either.

 

Alistair Nelson

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Mixed Farmer

Location

E Yorks

• Jan 2, 2020

• #14

benny6910 said:

Thanks for that, it’s maybe not the drill for me then. I had a idea about putting a low disturbance toolbar in front of one to get a little 1 pass subsoil/ drill combi but that may not work either.

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Dyson's Have an 8m GD with a Grange Toolbar infront which I gather goes well particularly for rape

 

benny6910

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Arable Farmer

• Jan 2, 2020

• #15

O right thanks, my idea maybe isn’t a total non starter then. Do they drill cereals with it aswell?

 

Bumble Bee

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Arable Farmer

Location

Boroughbridge, North Yorkshire

• Jan 15, 2020

• #16

I've drilled into sumoed and cultivated ground with our GD. The only real issue is where there is a raised ridge of soil that has boiled out of the side of the cultivator. When the drills discs cut through the ridge, soil gets nipped in between the discs and they stall.

 

Farmerdunk

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Location

Hertfordshire

• Jan 15, 2020

• #17

We go through with a cousins v form first with LD legs from tilso. Then go with the GD drill. Pleased with the results

 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer

Location

Midlands

• Jan 15, 2020

• #18

Bumble Bee said:

I've drilled into sumoed and cultivated ground with our GD. The only real issue is where there is a raised ridge of soil that has boiled out of the side of the cultivator. When the drills discs cut through the ridge, soil gets nipped in between the discs and they stall.

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I think the discs are adjustable to avoid that?

 

Bumble Bee

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Arable Farmer

Location

Boroughbridge, North Yorkshire

• Jan 15, 2020

• #19

Brisel said:

I think the discs are adjustable to avoid that?

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Not sure how? There is nothing to alter.

 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer

Location

Midlands

• Jan 15, 2020

• #20

Bumble Bee said:

Not sure how? There is nothing to alter.

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There are spacers behind the discs, from memory. An owner of one would be better placed to comment. @Badshot ?