Greenbeast
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I can't agree on the reading, as that is education, but mostly you're right
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lazy farmer
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While you eat ?
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err, not only as an Australian who has grown up in this environment, but also as a motorcyclist who’s favourite riding is in the desert & as someone who exercises / distance runs regularly . . .
a dryness in the mouth is one of the later stages of dehydration . . .
urine is the best indicator
you need to be weeing often & clear . . .
if you aren’t weeing through the day, or if your pîss is dark or smells, then you are dehydrated
ideally, you should be taking small sips of water, often
I have quite a lot of experience of hydration / dehydration / being physical in hot & dry environments - so feel free to ask . . .
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I know it’s very hot here, more so than any of you have probably ever experienced, but at the moment we ( as a family of 3 ) are drinking 20 litres of water ( we have run out of water, we are buying truckloads to fill our tanks, & filling 20 l drums for drinking etc ) a day . . .
Last night I woke up in a pool of sweat at 2.00am, grabbed a bottle of water out of the fridge, & drank a litre between 2 & 6.00 am . . .
Last night I woke up in a pool of sweat at 2.00am, grabbed a bottle of water out of the fridge, & drank a litre between 2 & 6.00 am . . .
Greenbeast
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ah i mis-read, ironically
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Thanks. I figure if you pee in the night you should drink a glass of water while you’re there to replace what went out. A bit counterintuitive but I often wake up with a headache and thought this would help.
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When at home I try and drink 3-4 half pint glasses of water a day, on top of the usual teas and coffee. I find that when feeling tired and tense just water can make me feel refreshed and my spirits slightly raised. We filter all out water, removes any taste issues that might put us off drinking it.
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If beer is 5% alcohol, what's the other 95%? Water? - - ok so it's a bit t-i-c but - - 
I haven't had alcohol today, and I shan't but what surprises me is my day long and near constant need for fluid - tea, water, whatever. Is it psychosomatic - is it like turning to toffees when I've stopped smoking? Am I just placating my supposed need for alcohol?
Another weird aspect to denying myself what I clearly want? I find a perverse sense of pleasure in the denial - I enjoy being better than I am or want to be!! My mate's a trickcyclist - when we next have a pint, I'll ask him!
I haven't had alcohol today, and I shan't but what surprises me is my day long and near constant need for fluid - tea, water, whatever. Is it psychosomatic - is it like turning to toffees when I've stopped smoking? Am I just placating my supposed need for alcohol?
Another weird aspect to denying myself what I clearly want? I find a perverse sense of pleasure in the denial - I enjoy being better than I am or want to be!! My mate's a trickcyclist - when we next have a pint, I'll ask him!
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Presumably, when I stand before my maker and he asks me how well I think I did whilst on earth, the trick may well be to face it with a degree of humility - if he asks me to atone for my sins - then that'll take the next 60+ years!
I have a faith that there's some almighty being - there has to be, but I suspect that he's a bit like I am, with my children; I don't want them to wear a skull-cap, or for the girls to wear a shawl in church, I don't want them to kneel before me, or worse prostrate themselves begging my forgiveness - I believe that the good Lord, and I want exactly the same thing, and that those who love us go out in to the world, do as they would be done by and when time and circumstances permit, reach down and pick up the man who has fallen and who they meet on there way.
If I was God - I would feel deeply saddened by the wealth of the established church - if I was God I may not be too inclined to show christian forgiveness to those of my staff who've abused young and vulnerable children - and if I was God, I'd be seriously pee'd off with those of my managers and team leaders who protect and shelter them.
Yep, I believe that there's a God, but the one that I worship wants me do so by being no more than a credit to him - - I try, and trust me now, I have failed - you have no idea to the extent either - and the sorry bit is that it's only impending old age which has slowed down the rate of sinning …….. I'm serious too.
I do genuinely try to offer a balance - - that's going to be my presentation when I face the day!
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headaches are another definite sign of dehydration
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As is dry bowel movements (apologies). Not even constipation, just dry hard-ish stools. When the body is dehydrated the first place it looks for retaining water is the gut contents, it will draw water back out from here.
No doubt what constipation does for one's mood.
fiat 9090
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I'm here in hospital and after reading everyone's posts I'm drinking gallons of water ???
Greenbeast
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You can drink too much, you can die from overconsumption
fiat 9090
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I may have exaggerated gallons maybe glasses ??
"Our self motivation suffers most from how we choose to see the circumstances in our lives. Thats because we dont see things as they are, we see things as we are." (100 Ways to Motivate Yourself - Steve Chandler)
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I set myself a target of things to do each day. If I don't set myself a target then I usually miss it as I wander aimlessly into the yard without focus and end up wearing myself out doing a lot of nothing much at all.
A diary helps in this respect. It provides a bit of structure for the week ahead. A list of jobs is easier to remember and satisfying to tick off. It's also useful to list niggling problems and work on solutions.
Work study or time and motion study was once fashionable but fell out of favour. I think there is a lot to be said for it still. You can do twice as much with half the effort in half the time if you plan the task before you begin it. Some folk wear themselves out through lack of forethought. They work hard but ineffectively. I do it myself, but am trying to improve things. Even carrying the plates through to the kitchen when you have finished eating saves another trip and your legs, but some folk never see it, then get tired and angry. They do a lot of purposeless walking about and talking. It burns energy, wears everybody out and achieves nothing but increases anxiety.
A diary helps in this respect. It provides a bit of structure for the week ahead. A list of jobs is easier to remember and satisfying to tick off. It's also useful to list niggling problems and work on solutions.
Work study or time and motion study was once fashionable but fell out of favour. I think there is a lot to be said for it still. You can do twice as much with half the effort in half the time if you plan the task before you begin it. Some folk wear themselves out through lack of forethought. They work hard but ineffectively. I do it myself, but am trying to improve things. Even carrying the plates through to the kitchen when you have finished eating saves another trip and your legs, but some folk never see it, then get tired and angry. They do a lot of purposeless walking about and talking. It burns energy, wears everybody out and achieves nothing but increases anxiety.
fiat 9090
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yes exactly and esp in the workshop
Christoph1945
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At the time when I was struggling and battling for recovery from an unbelievably deep and destructive psychological breakdown and drug withdrawal symptoms, I found that making a jobs list for the next day proved to be of great assistance in getting things done. I didn't always complete the list on that day and would add the uncompleted task to the list for the next day. I would also break some jobs down into smaller bites.
I always kept my jobs list at hand and ticked off each job as I completed the task and moved on to the next. Oh, and I tried not to make the list too long; lest falling too short should discourage me.
As an aside, perhaps to assist and support some of our silent readers, are there any of us here who have used any of the psychological support organisations and can report on the value thereof? I, sadly, never did but was supported by my wife, local clergy, and psychiatric hospital staff.
The FCN and the Samaritans sound like superb organisations to assist anyone in times of deep stress. I have never used either of the aforementioned organisations but did work manning a phone for the Samaritans for a time ( a long time after my recovery) and would commend them to anyone in need of a friendly ear to listen to them. Of course, the FCN will be more attuned to problems of an agricultural nature, I suppose.
Stay safe, stay well, and may your new year be greatly blessed with peace and contentment.
Chris.
I always kept my jobs list at hand and ticked off each job as I completed the task and moved on to the next. Oh, and I tried not to make the list too long; lest falling too short should discourage me.
As an aside, perhaps to assist and support some of our silent readers, are there any of us here who have used any of the psychological support organisations and can report on the value thereof? I, sadly, never did but was supported by my wife, local clergy, and psychiatric hospital staff.
The FCN and the Samaritans sound like superb organisations to assist anyone in times of deep stress. I have never used either of the aforementioned organisations but did work manning a phone for the Samaritans for a time ( a long time after my recovery) and would commend them to anyone in need of a friendly ear to listen to them. Of course, the FCN will be more attuned to problems of an agricultural nature, I suppose.
Stay safe, stay well, and may your new year be greatly blessed with peace and contentment.
Chris
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ollie989898
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Alcohol fiddles with a part of the brain that secretes ADH. If you reduce the amount of ADH in your system then your kidneys don't reabsorb as much water so you generate more (dilute) urine. You can go pretty dehydrated as a result.
I don't think humans were ever designed to sit or lie around for very long. When you examine what prehistoric man must have had to do, every day, collect water, firewood, hunt or gather, he would have been pretty active except for when the weather was awful or at night when it got dark and everyone gathered around the fire in some form of shelter. Fire must have nearly been our first kind of developed technology, hence why it must feel so appealing to many of us on a strangely basic level.
Not in the best of places myself at the minute in all honesty, folk who are struggling have my every sympathy.
I don't think humans were ever designed to sit or lie around for very long. When you examine what prehistoric man must have had to do, every day, collect water, firewood, hunt or gather, he would have been pretty active except for when the weather was awful or at night when it got dark and everyone gathered around the fire in some form of shelter. Fire must have nearly been our first kind of developed technology, hence why it must feel so appealing to many of us on a strangely basic level.
Not in the best of places myself at the minute in all honesty, folk who are struggling have my every sympathy.
Depressed people in general are stuck in their home and this makes the situation worse.