TB compensation

Bramble · Dec 16, 2019

......... Is bloody ridiculous!!!

Failed a test, 16 cows in milk, including 3 freshly calved heifers to go, valuation tables say between £700-£1100/head.

Sold 8 culls to Pickstocks 3 weeks ago, averaged £794/head with a top price of £1081.

WHO MAKES THESE TABLES UP!!!!!!!!!!!

Feel like giving them all a small jab of a nice long acting antibiotic just so they can’t put the animals in the food chain.

Rant over for now,I’m off to lie down

vantage · Dec 16, 2019

Bramble said:
......... Is bloody ridiculous!!!

Failed a test, 16 cows in milk, including 3 freshly calved heifers to go, valuation tables say between £700-£1100/head.

Sold 8 culls to Pickstocks 3 weeks ago, averaged £794/head with a top price of £1081.

WHO MAKES THESE TABLES UP!!!!!!!!!!!

Feel like giving them all a small jab of a nice long acting antibiotic just so they can’t put the animals in the food chain.

Rant over for now,I’m off to lie down

Didn’t you worm them just before the test?

bobk · Dec 16, 2019

Bramble said:
......... Is bloody ridiculous!!!

Failed a test, 16 cows in milk, including 3 freshly calved heifers to go, valuation tables say between £700-£1100/head.

Sold 8 culls to Pickstocks 3 weeks ago, averaged £794/head with a top price of £1081.

WHO MAKES THESE TABLES UP!!!!!!!!!!!

Feel like giving them all a small jab of a nice long acting antibiotic just so they can’t put the animals in the food chain.

Rant over for now,I’m off to lie down

It's compensation , not a valuation , that's what they told me .

Beef farmer · Dec 16, 2019

Bramble said:
......... Is bloody ridiculous!!!

Failed a test, 16 cows in milk, including 3 freshly calved heifers to go, valuation tables say between £700-£1100/head.

Sold 8 culls to Pickstocks 3 weeks ago, averaged £794/head with a top price of £1081.

WHO MAKES THESE TABLES UP!!!!!!!!!!!

Feel like giving them all a small jab of a nice long acting antibiotic just so they can’t put the animals in the food chain.

Rant over for now,I’m off to lie down

Then watch them all get dropped 1 by 1 in the yard. Nah it's not that nice, they took 12 like that from us as they where 3 weeks from calving. After they dropped the 1st one, the other 11 knew they where fudged. Possibly a low point in my farming life.

Milkcow365 · Dec 16, 2019

Beef farmer said:
Then watch them all get dropped 1 by 1 in the yard. Nah it's not that nice, they took 12 like that from us as they where 3 weeks from calving. After they dropped the 1st one, the other 11 knew they where fudged. Possibly a low point in my farming life.

And idiots up here happily bringing cattle up, perhaps read this ^^^^ and no I don’t blame anyone selling as it’s not there problem but people buying just madness......

sidjon · Dec 16, 2019

Beef farmer said:
Then watch them all get dropped 1 by 1 in the yard. Nah it's not that nice, they took 12 like that from us as they where 3 weeks from calving. After they dropped the 1st one, the other 11 knew they where fudged. Possibly a low point in my farming life.

We've got gamma test first full week in January, tried to get it done before we dry off over Christmas, all reactors will have to be shot on farm, really not looking forward to it

Beef farmer · Dec 16, 2019

sidjon said:
We've got gamma test first full week in January, tried to get it done before we dry off over Christmas, all reactors will have to be shot on farm, really not looking forward to it

It's easy to sit in an office and condemn these cows. Do all I can to avoid july/Sept testing

sidjon · Dec 16, 2019

Beef farmer said:
It's easy to sit in an office and condemn these cows. Do all I can to avoid july/Sept testing

Gamma was meant to be done April and they put it off as had clear test, last reactors had walled up lesions, so not going to be pretty and SIT on 20th of January just in case I haven't lost the whole herd

Sid · Dec 17, 2019

Bramble said:
......... Is bloody ridiculous!!!

Failed a test, 16 cows in milk, including 3 freshly calved heifers to go, valuation tables say between £700-£1100/head.

Sold 8 culls to Pickstocks 3 weeks ago, averaged £794/head with a top price of £1081.

WHO MAKES THESE TABLES UP!!!!!!!!!!!

Feel like giving them all a small jab of a nice long acting antibiotic just so they can’t put the animals in the food chain.

Rant over for now,I’m off to lie down

Not much consolation but I lost inc heifers they paid me £750......organic inc heifers the next Saturday at market averaged £1400!

AA bull 10 year old gave me £2500, worth to kill about a £1000.
Complete madness.

Large dispersal sale in Exeter yesterday, over 200 cows averaged £1400.
Valuations maybe rising.

The Agrarian · Jan 9, 2020

Hi guys. Quick question for you mainlanders who I think have more experience of this.

I'm currently down, and have been offered the blood test at my next test. Conditions are that I don't have to send the positives from it, but obviously they want me to. Positives do not count as positive, if they are clear in the abbatoir, and the skin test is clear i.e. the test would be considered one clear test.

I asked what the false positive rate is, and the dept vet wouldn't say. Don't want to lose unnecessary animals. Does it result in going clean more quickly?

Ducati899 · Jan 9, 2020

We had two blood tests at tail end of 2018 after being shut down for a fair time,took a large number of animals away and have had 3 clear skin tests on the bounce now

Cows 'n grass · Jan 9, 2020

I'm convinced that the gamma test got us clear. We lost 22 out of 1000/1100. Two of them were old cows that were head to toe in lesions and had shown no reaction to the skin test done at the same time.

Sid · Jan 9, 2020

Gamma runs at around 8% of herds go positive.
We had 4% and 2% on skin. 1% were positive on both.
1.5% were inconclusive. They have past 1 skin test and reading tomorrow.

What annoys me is the fact you get hammered hard on compensation for restocking even after a blood test!

Spudley · Jan 9, 2020

It's been a few years now (2014) but I'm also convinced the gamma test helped us go clear as well. We'd been down nearly 10 years but only having 1 or 2 at a time, we did the gamma test and lost about 10/100 but after that we did come clear.

vantage · Jan 10, 2020

Spudley said:
It's been a few years now (2014) but I'm also convinced the gamma test helped us go clear as well. We'd been down nearly 10 years but only having 1 or 2 at a time, we did the gamma test and lost about 10/100 but after that we did come clear.

We’ve had the Gamma, lost 4 cows from 350, went clear, 6 months later 14 went on skin test, lost 50 so far in the last 18 months.

jimmer · Jan 10, 2020

But to be fair, the Welsh system makes the English look good

ridger · Jan 10, 2020

The Agrarian said:
Hi guys. Quick question for you mainlanders who I think have more experience of this.

I'm currently down, and have been offered the blood test at my next test. Conditions are that I don't have to send the positives from it, but obviously they want me to. Positives do not count as positive, if they are clear in the abbatoir, and the skin test is clear i.e. the test would be considered one clear test.

I asked what the false positive rate is, and the dept vet wouldn't say. Don't want to lose unnecessary animals. Does it result in going clean more quickly?

It seems to be a big help, might lose a few extra at the time but seem to be clear after that

dinderleat · Jan 10, 2020

It’s pointless doing blood tests unless you deal with the wildlife I’m afraid.

Cows 'n grass · Jan 10, 2020

dinderleat said:
It’s pointless doing blood tests unless you deal with the wildlife I’m afraid.

I completely agree. Do they do many gamma tests outside cull zones?

The Agrarian · Jan 10, 2020

Well, this is it. What on earth is the point in me busting a gut and slaughtering false positives, just in time for them to pick it up and do it all over again. Madness.

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